Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (sort of) strange things after upgrading the kernel

[Dale]

Francisco Ares wrote:
> 2012/10/13 Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com <mailto:rdalek1967@×××××.com>>
>
>     Francisco Ares wrote:
>>
>>     2012/10/12 Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com <mailto:rdalek1967@×××××.com>>
>>
>>         Francisco Ares wrote:
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Thanks for your reply, Dale.
>>         >
>>         > Yes, everything works as expected when using the old kernel.
>>         >
>>         > I decided to re-emerge some base libraries, and nothing
>>         worked, until
>>         > I remembered to re-emerge udev. After the build, it
>>         announced two
>>         > wrong lines in the new kernel "config" file:
>>         >
>>         > CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y
>>         > CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2=y
>>         >
>>         > After correcting them and building the kernel again, now
>>         everything is
>>         > back to normal.
>>         >
>>         > Thanks again
>>         > Francisco
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > --
>>         > "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange
>>         apples then
>>         > you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have
>>         an idea and
>>         > I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of
>>         us will have
>>         > two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw
>>
>>
>>         Do you use oldconfig or build each one from scratch?  I use
>>         oldconfig so
>>         that I at least have what I know works.  It's just a matter
>>         of if I need
>>         anything new enabled.  Some claim oldconfig shouldn't be used
>>         but I have
>>         only had it to fail once in the last 10 years or so.  Most
>>         everyone I
>>         know of uses oldconfig.
>>
>>         Glad you got it going tho.
>>
>>         Dale
>>
>>         :-)  :-)
>>
>>         --
>>         I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you
>>         understood or how you interpreted my words!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     I normally also use oldconfig. I think there might be a reason
>>     for it to be around. But this time I didn't, because the old
>>     kernel was version 2.6.39 and I thought oldconfig would mess
>>     things up more than help on the new 3.4.9. Don't know how right
>>     or wrong is this assumption, though.
>>
>>     I just was lazy to upgrade the kernel, as it takes an hour or so
>>     to check most of menucofig.
>>
>>     Francisco
>>
>
>     I would have tried it but that is a LOT of updates.  It may be
>     faster to start from scratch in that case.  I know a few years ago
>     there was some changes that kept oldconfig from working as it
>     should.  That was the only time it failed me but I do upgrade more
>     often to avoid this sort of thing.  I try to upgrade every couple
>     months.  Now if I have long uptimes, I may not actually ever use
>     that kernel but I have a config file to copy over that is a bit
>     more up to date.
>
>     I would suggest printing or something the output of the
>     following:  lspci -k  That tells you what you need for your
>     hardware, that is of course from a kernel where all your hardware
>     works.  There may be some specific things for certain software
>     that is needed but at least you can boot up and have a system to
>     work with.  I usually leave the rest to defaults unless I am sure
>     there is something I don't need.
>
>     Glad you got it sorted out and working tho.
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-)
>
>     --
>     I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
>
>
>
> Hi, Dale
>
> As my old kernel is from the 2.6 series and the new is from the 3.4, I
> decided to do a "menuconfig" from scratch. I do use "lspci" and also I
> always build the kernel allowing "/proc/config.gz", so it is easy to
> get exactly what is working, although I keep my own bacup copies of
> ".config", for future references. When I am building a kernel, I use
> to open the latest ".config" in a separate console, for reference.
> That has kept me of forgetting plenty of details.
>
> Thanks
> Francisco
> --
> "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then
> you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and
> I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have
> two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw


I can understand why.  There would have been a huge number of new
options to check on.  Doing it from scratch with menuconfig could have
been just as fast or maybe even faster.  May have been worth trying but
may have ended up with more issues. 

Using lspci -k does help.  Someone posted about the -k option and I made
a note of it since it gives the name of the driver.  If we know the name
of the driver, we know what to search for and enable.  Makes life easier. 

The one time oldconfig failed, I had old kernel in one screen and new
kernel in another and was going section by section.  Sounds like what
you have done so we ended up doing this the same way.  It is sometimes
the best way and we don't miss the important stuff.  ;-) 

All things considered, turned out pretty good. Built a new kernel from
scratch, had only one minor issue.  Good day all around.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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