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From: FredL <raptor@××××××××.fr>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:02:22
Message-Id: 9cb6276b80bd37b858536f6820a797c3@drakonix.fr
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script by Alan McKinnon
1 Le 2013/07/22 22:44, Alan McKinnon a écrit :
2 > On 22/07/2013 23:35, FredL wrote:
3 >
4 > Do you perhaps have NetworkManager or wicd installed?
5 >
6 >
7 > no, none of them, it is a very basic install, with only the minimum
8 > packages installed . I have checked at the init script and find a line
9 > in the depend section saying :
10 >
11 > after lo lo0 dbus
12 >
13 > but dbus is not yet installed, can this be the cause of my problem?
14 >
15 > so I have just installed dbus and add it to default runlevel and my
16 > net.* script are loaded correctly setting my static config, so every
17 > thing is fine now.
18 >
19 > But why do we need dbus in a very minimalistic system? I was thinking
20 > that it would be helpful in a full desktop environnement for
21 > automagically mounting device and things like that...
22 >
23 >
24 >
25 > dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single
26 > misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it.
27 >
28 > dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have.
29 >
30 > Why do you need or want a message bus?
31 >
32 > You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC you
33 > already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light daemon,
34 > can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to many of the
35 > IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones that don't
36 > happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging about them.
37 >
38 > That desktop systems are the main user of dbus at this point in time
39 > doesn't change one bit what dbus is designed to do and it's usefulness.
40
41 ok, thanks for your explanation and your help, my last fresh install was
42 a very long time ago and I can't remember having to install dbus before
43 having my net script working, but a lot of things have changed since
44 this last install and that is probably what I miss in this fresh install
45 process

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>