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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:30:28 -0600 |
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kashani wrote: |
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> Nick Rout wrote: |
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> > I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the |
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> > handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 |
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> > handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an |
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> > instal on other architectures). |
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> > Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: |
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> > "Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a |
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> > stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore." |
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> > WTF? When did this happen? |
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> About a week or two ago and was heavily discussed on gentoo-doc IIRC. |
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> Here's a rough summary. |
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> stage1 is the cause of a number of circular dependency issues, it takes |
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> forever, the engineering and release team spends too much time on it, |
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> and the average Gentoo users get no benefit from doing a stage1 over a |
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> stage3. In order to get any benefit from stage1 you must edit the boot |
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> strap scripts in some way. Editting the boot strap scripts is not |
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> documented and not something general users should be mucking around in |
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> so we're going to drop everything, but stage3 on the CD. |
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> Or at least that was my interpretation. I stopped paying attention |
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> around this point, but there was talk of keeping a stage1 for devs or |
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> people who need it... though I don't think exactly what or where was |
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> ever fully hashed out. |
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> kashani |
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Thanks for the info. |
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I have only used stage 1 once, and it was for an i586 machine (FYI an |
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epia eden (http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Eden_C3.2FEzra_.28Via_EPIA.29) |
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This is because there weren't stage 3's available for i586, so I had to |
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compile the lot from stage 1 (at least as i read the instructions at |
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that point). |
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Frankly I think that a stage 3 is ok 99% of the time, I am just |
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surprised to see gentoo limiting choices, even for the other 1%. |
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I am also surprised that it wasn't given wider publicity in the lead up |
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to the change - this sort of thing should be referred to this list IMHO. This list is high enough volume without having to sub to gentoo-doc as |
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well to pick up important changes. |
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Nick Rout <nick@×××××××.nz> |
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