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2013/9/6 gevisz <gevisz@×××××.com> |
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> 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> |
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>> On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: |
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>> > Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, |
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>> > Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. |
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>> > Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame |
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>> > from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close |
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>> > button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole |
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>> > screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. |
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>> > I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but |
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>> > somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows |
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>> > had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the |
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>> > Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( |
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>> > Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the |
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>> > sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons "out |
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>> > of the box" and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do |
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>> > the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of |
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>> course). |
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>> > However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the |
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>> > moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome |
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>> > (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet |
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>> > with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). |
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>> > Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and |
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>> > Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. |
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>> I think the true answer is |
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>> "You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want" |
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>> I'm happy to be proved wrong though. |
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>> If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will |
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>> last only a short time. |
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>> Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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> Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far |
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> 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other |
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> language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev |
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> configs), |
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> 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, |
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> I can not assign <Win>+<Shift>+<any letter> to any program launcher |
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> in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, |
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> 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent |
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> packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. |
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> All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back |
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> compared to Gnome 2 |
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> (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with |
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> Gnome 3 :^), as |
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> have not tried it so far). |
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> P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can |
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> explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, |
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> you are welcome. :^) |
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> I set up toggling the keyboard layout to <rWin> key in |
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> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: |
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> Option "XkbOptions" |
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> "grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" |
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> It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( |
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> Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the |
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> Xfce panel, |
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> but could not find any. |
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A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included |
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in the xfce4-meta package |
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(and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout |
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indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, |
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I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after |
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changing some of the plugin's |
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settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, |
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the applet continued to switch |
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the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the |
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original ones. Magically, the <rWin> |
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key also started to switch the keyboard layout. |
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So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. |
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The third one is not |
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so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. |
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:^) |
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Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more |
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informative. :^) |
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However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is still |
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valid. |
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But not so important any more. :^) |