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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Paul Hartman |
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>> <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Paul Hartman |
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>>>> <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Paul Hartman |
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>>>>>> <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 May 2012 12:30:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: |
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>>>>>>>>> Notice the (-win32codecs) flag. Seems to me (on this system anyway) |
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>>>>>>>>> they are hard masked off? I tried adding the flag to package.use but |
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>>>>>>>>> emerge won't enable the darn thing... |
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>>>>>>>> You need to unmask the USE flag first, by adding -win32codecs |
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>>>>>>>> to /etc/portage/profile/use.mask |
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>>>>>>> If he is using amd64 he can't use win32codecs unless he uses a 32-bit |
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>>>>>>> mplayer/ffmpeg. AFAIK. |
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>>>>>> Wouldn't using multilib work around this? |
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>>>>> I think he would still need to compile a 32-bit mplayer/ffmpeg (in a |
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>>>>> 32-bit chroot) to be able to make use of them. Multilib would let him |
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>>>>> run 32-bit mplayer or ffmpeg binaries (which themselves would be able |
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>>>>> to use the 32-bit DLLs). But I don't think 64-bit mplayer/ffmpeg can |
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>>>>> call 32-bit DLLs. |
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>>>>> There is an amd64codecs package containing the 64-bit codecs, but it |
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>>>>> has been masked and made obsolete by the fact that mplayer/ffmpeg can |
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>>>>> natively do most (or all?) of those codecs these days. |
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>>>> And presumably for all the same reasons, if I cannot play them I |
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>>>> cannot convert them. |
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>>>> Ah, a world full of unspecified, proprietary vendor specific file |
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>>>> formats hidden in old dlls... Ain't it a fine world we live in? |
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>>>> Sort of painful to start maintaining a 32-bit chroot just to handle |
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>>>> this sort of thing. I suspect there's some freeware for the Windows |
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>>>> world that might allow me to do the conversion in a VM. I'll start |
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>>>> looking for that. The web site that advertised conversion didn't work |
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>>>> as it bombed out after an hour. |
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>>> There used to be a 32-bit mplayer-bin package in portage that would |
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>>> have made it simple, but that disappeared some time ago. |
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>>>> Maybe there's some simple binary install I could do - Fedora or |
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>>>> Ubuntu, etc. - but my concern there is that those binaries might not |
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>>>> play well inside my 64-bit Gentoo environ... |
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>>> If you can find a statically-linked 32-bit mplayer somewhere, and |
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>>> emerge the win32codecs package on your machine, I think it has a |
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>>> chance of working. |
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>>> |
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>> |
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>> Actually, going back to the title of the thread, I don't need to watch |
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>> wmv files in 64-bit. I really only need to _convert_ them to mp4 so |
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>> that I could watch them using xine, etc. or externally on the Kindle. |
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>> Maybe a 32-bit Gentoo chroot that doesn't maintain any desktop or X11, |
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>> etc. could work? If I could convert the files at the command line |
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>> using ffmpeg in 32-bit then that would be pretty manageable in terms |
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>> of Gentoo work, assuming the ffmpeg package can be built as without |
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>> any GUI stuff? |
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> I was just thinking that. I played with a chroot briefly just before |
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> inara and kaylee bit it, and it seemed pretty trivial. Were it me, |
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> that'd be the next thing I'd try. (But then, compiling is cheap for |
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> me) |
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I think I'll try it in a Virtualbox VM first I instead of a chroot. |
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That's pretty easy to deal with. Easy to back up. Easy to move to a |
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different system down the road. No disk partitions, etc. |
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Biggest issue for me is likely to be that I haven't done a 32-bit |
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install in at least 6 years. No idea what to watch out for but I doubt |
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it's any big deal. No idea how the 32-bit VM really does 32-bit when |
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it's running on a 64-bit processor that's doing 64-bit all the time |
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but I guess that's why we pay these Intel & Oracle people the big |
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bucks, right? ;-) |
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And if I end up needing X in the 32-bit environment for some reason it |
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will be easy to add that down the road. |
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It's a real drag about the hassles your machines have been going |
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through. I hope you get by that soon. |
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Cheers, |
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Mark |