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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: Gentoo Users List <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Which Java Runtime is "best"?
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:23:53
Message-Id: 20080607222421.GA15039@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Which Java Runtime is "best"? by Walter Dnes
1 On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 10:24:57AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
2
3 > I only need a runtime. I don't know the programming language, so
4 > there's no need for a full-blown development environment.
5
6 OK, so I *WAS* going to try the Sun JRE. It seems that there's no
7 such animal. You have to download the fullblown developer's kit...
8
9 [m3000][root][~] emerge -pv virtual/jre
10
11 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
12
13 Calculating dependencies... done!
14 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15 7 kB
15 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 40 kB
16 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 15 kB
17 [ebuild N ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.05 USE="X alsa nsplugin -doc -examples -jce -odbc" 68,885 kB
18 [ebuild N ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0 0 kB
19 [ebuild N ] virtual/jre-1.6.0 0 kB
20
21 [m3000][root][~] emerge -pv virtual/jdk
22
23 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
24
25 Calculating dependencies... done!
26 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15 7 kB
27 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 40 kB
28 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 15 kB
29 [ebuild N ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.05 USE="X alsa nsplugin -doc -examples -jce -odbc" 68,885 kB
30 [ebuild N ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0 0 kB
31
32 I had always wondered why Sun's Java could be shoehorned into memory-
33 starved cellphones, but required a full gigbyte of diskspace on a PC,
34 merely to view a Java applet on a webpage. Now I know. Next thing I
35 looked at was Blackdown...
36
37 [m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jre
38
39 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
40
41 Calculating dependencies... done!
42 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15 7 kB
43 [ebuild N ] net-libs/libnet-1.1.2.1-r1 USE="-doc" 998 kB
44 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 40 kB
45 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 15 kB
46 [ebuild N ] dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03-r14 USE="X alsa (-nsplugin) -odbc" 13,225 kB
47
48 [m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jdk
49
50 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
51
52 Calculating dependencies... done!
53 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15 7 kB
54 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 40 kB
55 [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 15 kB
56 [ebuild N ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r15 USE="-doc (-nsplugin)" 33,571 kB
57
58 The jdk is significantly smaller, and the jre even moreso. However,
59 the "(-nsplugin)" scares me. Does that mean it doesn't have the ability
60 to view Java applets in Firefox via plugins??? What's the point? Even
61 with a desktop PC, a gigabyte here and a gigabyte there, and pretty soon
62 you're talking real significant diskspace. I plan on getting an ASUS
63 EEE 900 soon. And on that thing, a gigabyte to view webpage applets is a
64 very bad idea.
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