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From: Aaron Clark <ophidian@×××××××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Which Java Runtime is "best"?
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:54:27
Message-Id: 484B57EF.6090405@ophidian.homeip.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Which Java Runtime is "best"? by Walter Dnes
1 Walter Dnes wrote:
2 > On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 10:24:57AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
3 >
4 >> I only need a runtime. I don't know the programming language, so
5 >> there's no need for a full-blown development environment.
6 >
7 > OK, so I *WAS* going to try the Sun JRE. It seems that there's no
8 > such animal. You have to download the fullblown developer's kit...
9
10 SNIP!
11
12 > [m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jre
13 >
14 > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
15 >
16 > Calculating dependencies... done!
17 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15 7 kB
18 > [ebuild N ] net-libs/libnet-1.1.2.1-r1 USE="-doc" 998 kB
19 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 40 kB
20 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 15 kB
21 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03-r14 USE="X alsa (-nsplugin) -odbc" 13,225 kB
22 >
23 > [m3000][root][~] emerge -pv blackdown-jdk
24 >
25 > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
26 >
27 > Calculating dependencies... done!
28 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-wrapper-0.15 7 kB
29 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 40 kB
30 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 15 kB
31 > [ebuild N ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r15 USE="-doc (-nsplugin)" 33,571 kB
32 >
33 > The jdk is significantly smaller, and the jre even moreso. However,
34 > the "(-nsplugin)" scares me. Does that mean it doesn't have the ability
35 > to view Java applets in Firefox via plugins??? What's the point? Even
36 > with a desktop PC, a gigabyte here and a gigabyte there, and pretty soon
37 > you're talking real significant diskspace. I plan on getting an ASUS
38 > EEE 900 soon. And on that thing, a gigabyte to view webpage applets is a
39 > very bad idea.
40
41 Even the Sun JDK is not more than 100MB, I don't see the big deal. As
42 for the plugin, IIRC the Blackdown JRE/JDK have an unpatched security
43 issue with the browser plugin, which is why the plugin is turned off.
44
45 You may have better luck getting more in-depth answers on the
46 gentoo-java mail list.
47
48 Aaron
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51 now and call it a day?"
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