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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Winchester Digital HD: Advanced Format
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:41:21
Message-Id: q2x5bdc1c8b1004180841lb723dcb7z47dfd1edab1f640c@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Winchester Digital HD: Advanced Format by meino.cramer@gmx.de
1 On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 4:16 AM, <meino.cramer@×××.de> wrote:
2 > Hi,
3 >
4 > b
5 > the Winchester Digital WD10EARS S-ATA II 300MB/s GreenPower WD Caviar Green
6 > 1TByte Harddiscs offers something which WD calls "Advanced Format"
7 > which turns out to be sectors of 4096 bytes size instead of 512 bytes.
8 >
9 > To use it, one needs a tool made by WD which only runs under windows.
10 >
11 > Or?
12 >
13 > Is this "new sector size" is something, which I can activate
14 > be using fdisk/mkfs or something included in the linux kernel
15 > since stone age and is only new to the guys at Microsoft/Winchester
16 > Digital?
17 >
18 > Can I take any advantage of that?
19 >
20 > Thank you very much for any help and advice in advance!
21 > Have a nice sunday!
22 > mcc
23
24 Sort of none of the above.
25
26 4K sectors are 4K sectors. It isn't something you activate. It's the
27 way the drive is made. However the drive responds to 512 byte sector
28 addresses. You can use it as you would any other drive, however...
29
30 1) If you put your partitions on 4K boundaries the drive will be fast
31
32 2) If you put your sectors on 512 byte boundaries the drive will work
33 but be very slow
34
35 Either way it will work. I think #1 is better, but that's up to you.
36
37 Simple answer about what to do? Make sure the starting address of all
38 partitions is divisible by 8, or for simplicity have every partition
39 starting address end with 3 zeros which is what some of the newer
40 Windows setup tools are doing. I know the 3 zero thing sounds like
41 you're wasting space, and you would be, but it's very small compared
42 to the size of the drive so it's what I did.
43
44 Now, if you have NOT already purchased the drive, my suggestion is
45 that you do not, or if you insist on buying some get in touch with me.
46 I have 6 sitting right here at home that I'll happily sell to you at
47 reduced prices. ;-)
48
49 These drives are saving power by parking the heads very quickly and my
50 experience over the last few months is that they are likely going to
51 wear out in about 18 months according to WD's spec of 300K park
52 cycles. (Check SMART data yourself) Additionally they are completely
53 unusable for any sort of RAID environment as WD removed all the TLER
54 functions from the firmware. Linux is racking up 1 cycles every 2
55 minutes. (41476/1588) As best I can tell the drive will be out of spec
56 in about 14 months if your machine is powered on 24/7.
57
58 gandalf ~ # smartctl -i /dev/sda
59 smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [x86_64-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
60 Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
61
62 === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
63 Device Model: WDC WD10EARS-00Y5B1
64 Serial Number: WD-WCAV55464493
65 Firmware Version: 80.00A80
66 User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes
67 Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
68 ATA Version is: 8
69 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
70 Local Time is: Sun Apr 18 08:36:44 2010 PDT
71 SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
72 SMART support is: Enabled
73
74 gandalf ~ #
75 gandalf ~ # !smart
76 smartctl -A /dev/sda
77 smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [x86_64-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
78 Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
79
80 === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
81 SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
82 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
83 ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
84 UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
85 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail
86 Always - 0
87 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 129 128 021 Pre-fail
88 Always - 6525
89 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
90 Always - 21
91 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail
92 Always - 0
93 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age
94 Always - 0
95 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age
96 Always - 1588
97 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age
98 Always - 0
99 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age
100 Always - 0
101 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
102 Always - 20
103 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
104 Always - 5
105 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 187 187 000 Old_age
106 Always - 41476
107 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 121 116 000 Old_age
108 Always - 26
109 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
110 Always - 0
111 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
112 Always - 0
113 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age
114 Offline - 0
115 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
116 Always - 0
117 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age
118 Offline - 0
119
120 gandalf ~ #
121
122
123 - Mark

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