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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice "place" :-D
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:32:11
Message-Id: 201105182228.55775.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice "place" :-D by Alan Mackenzie
1 Apparently, though unproven, at 22:15 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie
2 did opine thusly:
3
4 > Hi, Alan.
5 >
6 > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:03:47PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
7 > > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:17 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Neil
8 > > Bothwick
9 > >
10 > > did opine thusly:
11 > > > On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:38:33 +0100, Stroller wrote:
12 > > > > Not addressed at you, specifically, but it rather seems like sed &
13 > > > > awk are much under-appreciated these days. I'd guess that this may
14 > > > > be due to the changing nature of *nix users, but they seem to have
15 > > > > "gone out of fashion". Aside from sed's simple replace, I have
16 > > > > certainly never learned to do anything useful with them.
17 > > >
18 > > > They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their
19 > > > adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one
20 > > > of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but
21 > > > always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use
22 > > > them for everything but slicing bread.
23 > >
24 > > Add bash to that list.
25 > >
26 > > Have you read the full man page for the bloody thing?
27 >
28 > You're not meant to read that man page through from beginning to end.
29
30 Um, I did ....
31
32 > Anybody who could learn bash that way would be superhuman.
33
34 I doubt I learned much though. I even took the effort to reformat it as an OOo
35 doc so I could find stuff and give it to others.
36
37 It was an interesting exercise, not necessary an interesting *learning*
38 exercise
39
40
41 > Unfortunately, the info pages for bash are not well organised. So
42 > beginners have to learn from books, many of which are not good.
43 >
44 > And bash is about the most disorganised, arbitrary language around, full
45 > of crazy little quirks and odd sytaxes. And I love it. ;-)
46
47 The difference between bash and perl?
48
49 Perl was inspired by a linguist, who at least puts his foot down at the truly
50 crazy suggestions. Bash has no such thing.
51
52
53 --
54 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice "place" :-D Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>