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Apparently, though unproven, at 22:15 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie |
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did opine thusly: |
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> Hi, Alan. |
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> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:03:47PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:17 on Wednesday 18 May 2011, Neil |
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> > Bothwick |
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> > did opine thusly: |
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> > > On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:38:33 +0100, Stroller wrote: |
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> > > > Not addressed at you, specifically, but it rather seems like sed & |
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> > > > awk are much under-appreciated these days. I'd guess that this may |
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> > > > be due to the changing nature of *nix users, but they seem to have |
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> > > > "gone out of fashion". Aside from sed's simple replace, I have |
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> > > > certainly never learned to do anything useful with them. |
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> > > |
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> > > They both have a steep initial learning curve, which leads to their |
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> > > adoption being put off. I put awk in the same category as screen, one |
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> > > of those programs that you hear people going on about for years, but |
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> > > always manage to put off trying them. Once you do try them, you use |
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> > > them for everything but slicing bread. |
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> > Add bash to that list. |
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> > Have you read the full man page for the bloody thing? |
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> You're not meant to read that man page through from beginning to end. |
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Um, I did .... |
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> Anybody who could learn bash that way would be superhuman. |
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I doubt I learned much though. I even took the effort to reformat it as an OOo |
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doc so I could find stuff and give it to others. |
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It was an interesting exercise, not necessary an interesting *learning* |
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exercise |
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> Unfortunately, the info pages for bash are not well organised. So |
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> beginners have to learn from books, many of which are not good. |
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> And bash is about the most disorganised, arbitrary language around, full |
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> of crazy little quirks and odd sytaxes. And I love it. ;-) |
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The difference between bash and perl? |
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Perl was inspired by a linguist, who at least puts his foot down at the truly |
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crazy suggestions. Bash has no such thing. |
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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com |