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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Ignas Anikevicius |
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<anikevicius@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On 15/05/12 20:08, Michael Mol wrote: |
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>> There are going to be multiple sliders which affect your playback |
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>> volume. Without seeing a list of your sliders, I couldn't really guess |
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>> which, beyond 'Master', 'PCM' and 'Headphone'. There may be others; my |
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>> old Sound Blaster Live had a ton of internal signal processing |
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>> sliders, and anything that involves amplification presents that risk. |
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> [...] (some useful stuff snipped :)) |
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> |
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> At the moment all the other sliders are at 0. So I do not know, maybe |
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> some other sliders are doing this... |
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Not if they're at their minimum settings. :-| |
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> |
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> Also, ALSA can show the levels in dBs for my card... but I get sand even |
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> when I'am at gain of ~ (-11,-14)dB on all three sliders (Master, PCM, |
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> Headphone). |
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> |
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>> You might try using something like PulseAudio, which may be doing |
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>> internal mixing in the floating point space before it maps back to |
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>> 16-bit linear PCM. My experiences with PulseAudio have generally been |
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>> positive in terms of audio quality. The trickiest part is getting |
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>> applications to pipe their audio through it, followed by getting |
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>> direct access to the card's mixer settings if I need it. But |
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>> "pavucontrol" as a mixer control for PulseAudio works reasonably well |
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>> for the majority of circumstances. |
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> I am using Pulse :)... The problem with I have that it changes my PCM |
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> and Headphone levels without asking me... Therefore, if I change the |
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> levels manually on alsamixer and then use Pavucontrol, it just changes |
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> the PCM and headphone or speaker levels to max, which makes the sound |
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> crappy. Otherwise I am quite a happy Pulse user. :) |
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Run alsamixer in a terminal while playing with pavucontrol; you'll see |
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Alsamixer update live while Pulse tweaks ALSA's mixer settings. It's |
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useful if you want to get a feel for what exactly Pulse is doing. |
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On my desktop system, I found that if I had the Pulse master volume |
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control set to about 70%, Pulse would have my various sliders set to |
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just about their maximum setting before I started getting clipping |
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noises. |
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> |
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> Is there a way to set the limiting thresholds? |
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No; the limiting thresholds I was describing are some value that just |
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happens to be what it is because of the way your sound card mixes |
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audio together. |
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> Or maybe I am using two |
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> things at the same (ALSA and Pulse) and they are clashing and, |
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> therefore, I can not get good quality sound? |
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Pulse is usually OK at managing ALSA in the background; you just have |
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to do all your volume tweaking through pavucontrol if you intend for |
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things to not change on you. |
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[snip] |
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>> (Note: I CC'd this back to the main list, because somehow this one got |
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>> sent to me directly. Channeling communications through the main list |
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>> keeps the archives useful.) |
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> I thought, that I have replied to both, list and you.. :) Well, thanks |
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> for that. :) |
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Might have been a quirk in my GMail interface, now that I look at it. |
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Your earlier email looks fine. Something about the list's distribution |
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pattern changed, so simply clicking "Reply" doesn't work; I now have |
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to click "Reply All". |
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Anyway, I'd try taking others' suggestions, too, and possibly poking |
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whatever PulseAudio support groups exist. They'll be interested in |
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your circumstance. If it's possible to use Pulse reasonably on your |
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hardware, they'll want to figure out how to make that less difficult |
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to do. |
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Also, Mark noted that there were sliders he hadn't tweaked before when |
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he was experiencing similar issues, and it's plausible Pulse isn't |
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poking those at all. Try watching alsamixer to see what Pulse is up |
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to, and see if Pulse is passing over some of those sliders. |
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:wq |