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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : DVD drive
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:57:15
Message-Id: CAA2qdGWdPVheb+J4DrCVKKMUqMDHnwgqk14t=G37pOCs7otyQw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : DVD drive by Andrea Conti
1 On Aug 20, 2012 7:47 PM, "Andrea Conti" <alyf@××××.net> wrote:
2 >
3
4 [snip]
5
6 > >
7 > > Yes, +RW, -RW, but don't know much more on this other than older DVD
8 writers
9 > > would only do one format not another and if you didn't pay attention to
10 the
11 > > specification/limitations of your hardware you could end up buying the
12 wrong
13 > > type of DVDs. Someone more experienced on recording media could answer
14 this
15 > > better.
16 >
17 > Every modern recorder does both standards; depending on both the burner
18 > and the reader you might find that one standard works better than the
19 > other (i.e. has lower read error rates). Trial and error seems to be the
20 > only working approach...
21 >
22 > As for the standards, if you're just burning backups they're basically
23 > equivalent. The +RW standard is theoretically more flexible as media can
24 > be formatted in a "packet" mode which allows (almost) random r/w access,
25 > but in my experience software support and reliability have always been
26 > lousy, so forget about it.
27 >
28 > +RW media cannot be erased in the same way CD-RWs are erased, -- you can
29 > only overwrite it with new data. -RW behaves the same as CD-RWs in this
30 > regard.
31 >
32 > If you need rewritable DVD media with reliable random r/w access (but
33 > this doesn't seem to be your case), there is a third standard (DVD-RAM)
34 > which uses special disks with hardware sector marks. Drive support is
35 > not hard to find nowadays (the drive you cited actually supports it),
36 > but writing is slow, good media is expensive and the disks cannot be
37 > read in most "normal" dvd drives; I have no idea about the state of
38 > software support in Linux.
39 >
40
41 +RW *can* be erased, or else it won't be called RW :-)
42
43 That said, the difference is much deeper than differing metadata. Among
44 which :
45
46 * +RW uses Phase Modulation, -RW uses amplitude modulation. This gives +RW
47 much more robustness than -RW
48
49 * +RW blanks provide more info on the energy level required to burn, IIRC
50 up to 4 energy levels each tuned to a certain burning speed (e.g., 1x, 2x,
51 4x, and 8x). This *greatly* improves the success probability of burning.
52 -RW only provides energy level info for the maximum burning speed; if your
53 drive doesn't support that speed, it'll have to guess, and the results are
54 usually ungood
55
56 More history :
57
58 The CD Standard was originally developed by Philips, then adapted to the
59 data world requirements, including CD-R(W). The DVD-R standard was
60 originally developed by Panasonic, but Philips had a spat with Panasonic
61 because in Phillips' view, the CD-R standard has shortcomings they
62 (Philips) want to fix; Panasonic was more interested in getting DVD-R out
63 of the door asap. This resulted in Philips -- together with someone else,
64 was it Sony? -- to independently released the DVD+R standard.
65
66 CMIIW
67
68 Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : DVD drive Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info>
Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : DVD drive Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)