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On Tue, August 20, 2013 08:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> On 20/08/2013 07:38, J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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>> On Mon, August 19, 2013 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>> On 19/08/2013 22:32, joost@××××××××.org wrote: |
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>>>>> X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was |
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>>>>>> designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+ |
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>>>>>> years. Almost all factors that made X11 awesome in the 80s and 90s |
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>>>>>> simply are not there anymore. |
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>>>> X11 was still really awesome in 2002. When we used remote graphical |
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>>>> logons to different machines. |
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>>>> It also helped with performance of certain desktop applications. |
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>>>> Running |
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>>>> the application on a different machine (with better CPU) then the |
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>>>> machine I was working at always made people wonder why the same |
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>>>> application was performing so badly on theirs ;) |
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>>>> |
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>>>> But these days. Having fast reliable performance locally is better. |
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>>>> With |
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>>>> a decent RDP that can connect to an existing desktop without having to |
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>>>> set it up as shared from the beginning is more useful. Any ideas on |
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>>>> that? |
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>>> |
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>>> Agreed. I've gotten so used to all that local *GL* goodness that |
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>>> running |
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>>> almost any app (except maybe xterm) remotely is just so painful it |
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>>> makes |
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>>> me cry... |
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>> |
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>> For remote access, I can live without all the special effects. |
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>> |
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>>> I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java |
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>>> installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left |
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>>> with |
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>>> just the best remote interface ever - ssh and bash. So I can afford to |
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>>> be smug :-) |
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>> |
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>> ssh -Y <host> works really well for those. |
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>> I always feel smug when others first need to figure out how to get a |
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>> remote-X connection to the server because they use MS Windows. |
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>> They often claim that a VNC-server is a valid pre-req... |
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>> Take it from me, that is NOT a requirement to install the software. |
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>>> I don't know how to make your RDP problem easier - I treat that the |
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>>> same |
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>>> as allow/deny rules for ssh (or any other kind of access really) and |
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>>> just accept that sometimes I need to ask first for something to be |
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>>> allowed. again, I can afford to be smug here too as the only things I |
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>>> need to RDP to are terminals set up for that very purpose and |
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>>> VirtualBox |
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>>> VMs (that is one more check box at the create stage). |
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>> |
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>> For me the usage case is as follows: |
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>> 1) I start to do something on my desktop at home |
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>> 2) I go to the office or customer site |
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>> 3) I need to continue/finish what I was doing (it's usually for a |
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>> customer |
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>> in that case) |
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>> ... |
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>> |
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>> At this point, I can't continue. Unless I remembered to run a VNC server |
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>> and used vnc to localhost for step 1. |
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>> |
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>> With a MS Windows desktop, it is usually (sometimes I get a "clean" |
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>> desktop and still can't continue) possible. |
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>> |
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>> One option would be to be able to redirect an application to a different |
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>> X-server and when that one dies/disconnects/... it will reconnect to the |
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>> initial (my desktop) one. |
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>> This is also not something I found yet either. |
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> I don't think you can do that, I've never seen a way to change DISPLAY |
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> for an X-client on the fly. |
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> What you are describing sounds a lot like screen for X11, no? |
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> A thread last week was about remote desktop apps and what folks use. I |
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> didn't pay much attention, but ISTR a mention in that thread of |
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> something like that |
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Yes, saw it too. |
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Window Switch seems to be what I need, except it doesn't work well with |
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KDE-apps. (Guess which desktop I use...) |
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I will simply keep looking and remember to start VNC whenever it seems |
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likely I might need to continue at a later date. |
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Joost |