Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

[Alan McKinnon]

On 20/08/2013 07:38, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Mon, August 19, 2013 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 19/08/2013 22:32, joost@××××××××.org wrote:
>>>> X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was
>>>>> designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+
>>>>> years. Almost all factors that made X11 awesome in the 80s and 90s
>>>>> simply are not there anymore.
>>> X11 was still really awesome in 2002. When we used remote graphical
>>> logons to different machines.
>>> It also helped with performance of certain desktop applications. Running
>>> the application on a different machine (with better CPU) then the
>>> machine I was working at always made people wonder why the same
>>> application was performing so badly on theirs ;)
>>>
>>> But these days. Having fast reliable performance locally is better. With
>>> a decent RDP that can connect to an existing desktop without having to
>>> set it up as shared from the beginning is more useful. Any ideas on
>>> that?
>>
>> Agreed. I've gotten so used to all that local *GL* goodness that running
>> almost any app (except maybe xterm) remotely is just so painful it makes
>> me cry...
>
> For remote access, I can live without all the special effects.
>
>> I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java
>> installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left with
>> just the best remote interface ever - ssh and bash. So I can afford to
>> be smug :-)
>
> ssh -Y <host> works really well for those.
> I always feel smug when others first need to figure out how to get a
> remote-X connection to the server because they use MS Windows.
> They often claim that a VNC-server is a valid pre-req...
> Take it from me, that is NOT a requirement to install the software.
>
>> I don't know how to make your RDP problem easier - I treat that the same
>> as allow/deny rules for ssh (or any other kind of access really) and
>> just accept that sometimes I need to ask first for something to be
>> allowed. again, I can afford to be smug here too as the only things I
>> need to RDP to are terminals set up for that very purpose and VirtualBox
>> VMs (that is one more check box at the create stage).
>
> For me the usage case is as follows:
> 1) I start to do something on my desktop at home
> 2) I go to the office or customer site
> 3) I need to continue/finish what I was doing (it's usually for a customer
> in that case)
> ...
>
> At this point, I can't continue. Unless I remembered to run a VNC server
> and used vnc to localhost for step 1.
>
> With a MS Windows desktop, it is usually (sometimes I get a "clean"
> desktop and still can't continue) possible.
>
> One option would be to be able to redirect an application to a different
> X-server and when that one dies/disconnects/... it will reconnect to the
> initial (my desktop) one.
> This is also not something I found yet either.

I don't think you can do that, I've never seen a way to change DISPLAY
for an X-client on the fly.

What you are describing sounds a lot like screen for X11, no?
A thread last week was about remote desktop apps and what folks use. I
didn't pay much attention, but ISTR a mention in that thread of
something like that


> For these activities, all the latest *GL* goodies are not necessary and I
> can easily live without them. Remote 3D gaming isn't something I want to
> do.
>
> --
> Joost
>
>


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Alan McKinnon
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