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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:04:35
Message-Id: 20120105020254.455da0df@rohan.example.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 by Michael Mol
1 On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:49:29 -0500
2 Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > > As I said about my ex once, time tells.  Sometimes, time is the
5 > > only thing that does tell too.  Reminds me of wine although I don't
6 > > drink it.
7 >
8 > I think it's absolutely ridiculous to look at udev and mdev as winner
9 > or loser. I'm not trying to be even-handed or fair in this; I just
10 > think they service different needs.
11 >
12 > Currently, the only advantage I see for udev in a server is the
13 > ability to give network interfaces meaningful names...
14
15
16 Even that isn't all that useful for me. For my servers I know exactly
17 which interface is which (turns out that when Dell give you 4 on-board
18 nics they always come up in the same order. Pretty useful.)
19
20 We do the proper thing and document every bit of hardware in a central
21 repo (ocsng makes this automagic) and the way it is when the box is
22 racked is the way it stays till it's switched off 5 years later.
23
24 Aside from disks and RAM I've only had 2 hardware failures in 4 years
25 (both were Adaptec RAID cards) so changing hardware is an unusual event
26 (and rather major at that when it does happen).
27
28 For me, udev is more of a hindrance in the data centre than a help. I
29 simply do not need it at all, so mdev interests me a lot.
30
31 On my notebooks and test/development VMs, that's different. Those need
32 udev.
33
34 On something as complex as a node manager, I do not believe there is
35 such a thing as one-size fits all or a universal design.
36
37 --
38 Alan McKinnnon
39 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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