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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:44:05
Message-Id: CADPrc81DC-syAaYFOU4WPVWFrHCRBrFEVK=1wE-9qTHBrPaMKA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
3 >> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
4 >>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Joost Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
5 >>> > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 05:05:00 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
6 >>> >> "Last time I checked, neither GNOME nor Emacs demanded that Gentoo
7 >>> >> developers or users had to write a fork/replacement for a core
8 >>> >> component of the system. GNOME and Emacs just need ebuilds and
9 >>> >> adapting their configuration to Gentoo-isms. Testing and bug
10 >>> >> reporting, as usual. The only code needed is some small patches for
11 >>> >> both and around 200 lines of emacslisp for site-gentoo.el."
12 >>> >
13 >>> > Funny that you mention this. There might be something similar brewing
14 >>> > for
15 >>> > users of Gnome where quite a few low-level parts will end up being
16 >>> > mandatory for Gnome:
17 >>> >
18 >>> > "...but I'm increasingly seeing talk on the
19 >>> > gnome side of the "Gnome OS", to include pulse-audio, systemd,
20 >>> > policykit,
21 >>> > udev/u* (thus forcing lvm as well, at least lvm installation tho nothing
22 >>> > forces one to use it... yet, since lvm is required for udisks), etc."
23 >>>
24 >>> I'm pretty sure the last part is false. I certainly have udisk
25 >>> installet (it's pulled by gnome-disk-utility), but I don't use LVM. So
26 >>> there.
27 >>
28 >> I don't use Gnome and haven't looked into all this. Udev also doesn't appear
29 >> to have a LVM-useflag. But as I do use LVM, I can't actually check.
30 >> Do you have "sys-fs/lvm2" on your system?
31 >>
32 >> The ebuild does list it as "RDEPEND".
33 >
34 > Yes, I got it installed. I didn't noticed until now. Then again, it
35 > takes 1 minute to install in my puny laptop, and uses 7 Mb of hard
36 > drive. But anyhow, I was mistaken: it is forced by udisks.
37
38 I think udisks depending on LVM is an error, so I decided I would took
39 this Saturday and see if I was able to write a patch that makes it
40 optional. However, as per free software rules, I first visited the
41 Freedesktop.org bugzilla.
42
43 Gustavo Barbieri (who I mentioned before) got there first:
44
45 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37647
46
47 As I said before, Gustavo has contributed a lot to systemd, usually
48 making stuff optional. I'm sure his patch (or a similar version of it)
49 will be accepted.
50
51 As I keep saying: code talks.
52
53 Regards.
54 --
55 Canek Peláez Valdés
56 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
57 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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