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Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 13:55:28 +0000 |
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> Neil Bothwick<neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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>>> For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that under gentoo, every |
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>>> thing is compiled from scratch, but it was not made clear that it |
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>>> happens again and again at most updates. |
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>> If the OP had read so little about Gentoo that they haven't gleaned |
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>> that much, it certainly is not the distro for them. |
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> I'd go so far as to say that if a user does not already have a |
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> reasonable grasp of how Gentoo works, can't give you a one-paragraph |
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> description of Gentoo that is reasonably accurate, and can't describe |
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> the concepts of how an ebuild would work, then Gentoo is not the |
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> distro for that user. |
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> Gentoo is like fine Italian vehicles - you can get stunning |
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> performance IF you know what you are doing, know what all the bits mean |
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> and are prepared to invest the insane amount of time and effort it |
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> requires (per the rule of diminishing returns). There's always a few |
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> edge cases like James, who simply cannot find any other useful way to |
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> build his embedded images. I suspect James looked at the landscape and |
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> saw two choices: build his own build machinery, or use Gentoo's which |
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> fits most of his needs most of the time. |
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> As soon as someone asks a question like "which is better, OpenSuSE |
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> or Gentoo?" you almost always know the answer cannot possibly be |
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> Gentoo. That user has to play with OpenSuSE for a while to discover for |
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> himself why this is so. |
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> I'm going to get flamed for this, and be accused of being elitist. It |
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> happens every time. And that's OK: |
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No flames from me. I agree. I wouldn't recommend Gentoo to someone who |
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has no, or even very little, Linux experience. Looking back, I was one |
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heck of a noob when I installed Gentoo. It had to be fools luck that I |
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got it done. Then again, the docs were, and still are, really good. |
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You can dang near copy and paste the commands. |
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> If SuSE/RedHat were likened to good ready-made furniture, Debian would |
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> be top-grade DIY kits (they follow a formula but the user has some |
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> freedom to tweak what they build) and Gentoo wouldn't be furniture, it |
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> would be a cabinet-maker (with a concession that the user doesn't have |
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> to grow their own trees anymore, he can at least buy ready cut planks). |
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> LFS is the one that requires you to grow your own trees as well. |
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> There's a place in this world for amateur and professional |
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> cabinet-makers, but do we really want to recommend that the average DIY |
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> guy has to become one? |
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> I say suggest that the potential tinkerers cut their teeth on Debian |
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> first then switch to Gentoo on their own determinism when they |
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> understand the cost/benefit ratio themselves and can make an informed |
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> decision. |
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They can also do the install to a separate drive from within another |
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distro too. That way they can have the docs, forums and other useful |
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tools available. I know, I have heard of Knoppix too. Just saying. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |
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I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! |
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Miss the compile output? Hint: |
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EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n" |
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