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From: Andrey Vul <andrey.vul@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Painted into a corner: avahi and mDNSResponder
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:25:55
Message-Id: e38d12ff0810120125x31020621sa281cd5e1b36f46f@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Painted into a corner: avahi and mDNSResponder by Alan McKinnon
1 On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Sunday 12 October 2008 08:04:22 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
3 >> On Sonntag 12 Oktober 2008, Alan E. Davis wrote:
4 >> > Almost perpetually, the following packages or their versions are
5 >> > blocking. I have run emerge -e system several times. Some other
6 >> > problems were cleared up, and this
7 >> > avahi--mDNSResponder/mdnsresponder-compat whatever it all is, just
8 >> > keeps coming back even when solved by some skullduggery. I've removed
9 >> > both of them at one time or another.
10 >> >
11 >> > [blocks B ] net-dns/avahi ("net-dns/avahi" is blocking
12 >> > net-misc/mDNSResponder-107.6-r5)
13 >> >
14 >> > [blocks B ] net-misc/mDNSResponder ("net-misc/mDNSResponder" is
15 >> > blocking net-dns/avahi-0.6.23)
16 >> >
17 >> > I guess the problem is that I am running gnome and also have two or
18 >> > three different versions/slots of kde installed. I suppose, then,
19 >> > it's remarkable that only these blocks are showing up?
20 >> >
21 >> > Can someone lend a hand on this? Anything I do is little more than
22 >> > blind tinkering.
23 >> >
24 >> > Alan
25 >>
26 >> set the avahi useflag, unmerge mdnsresponder, emerge avahi.
27 >
28 > That looks familiar. I remember similar deep blocks myself - it was nasty at
29 > the time.
30 >
31 > For the OP's benefit, here's a high level summary of what is going on:
32 >
33 > Avahi and mDNSResponder implement a system called ZeroConf, first designed by
34 > Apple. It's a way for machines on a network to find each other and what
35 > network features they support. These systems are quite low-level so
36 > unfortunately the implementations are often incompatible.
37 >
38 > By and large you will find that Gnome stuff supports Avahi and KDE stuff
39 > supports mDNSResponder, so the only way out of this mess is often extensive
40 > use of 'equery hasuse', 'equery depends' and 'emerge -pvt' so see what pulls
41 > in what. But first you should research what these things are so you can make
42 > intelligent decisions about what to include and what to drop. The thing that
43 > cleared it up for me was an interview with the KDE team lead responsible for
44 > these features - Google will find it for you.
45 IIRC mdnsresponder-compat USE flags allows use of avahi in KDE (3).
46 >
47 > Personally, I find these things more trouble than they are worth. They seem to
48 > be designed for the "Apple Generation User" (whatever that is), and I have no
49 > use for that on the networks I work on. ZeroConf is not necessarily something
50 > you have to have installed...
51 >
52 > --
53 > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
54 >
55 >
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59 --
60 Andrey Vul
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62 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
63 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
64 A: Top-posting.
65 Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Painted into a corner: avahi and mDNSResponder Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>