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On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 03:35, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Tuesday 31 May 2011 21:02:46 Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>> Apparently, though unproven, at 21:27 on Tuesday 31 May 2011, Mick did |
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>> opine |
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>> thusly: |
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>> > On Tuesday 31 May 2011 08:07:24 Pandu Poluan wrote: |
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>> > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 13:56, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> |
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>> > > When SpanKY's makedev gets stabilized and pushed to baselayout, I'll |
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>> > > then happily ditch the genkernel cheat for my next VMs :-) |
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>> > Are you sure that manually creating /dev/console and /dev/null isn't all |
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>> > that is required? The rest of the devices will be created by udev when |
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>> > it runs at boot time. |
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Most probably so. But at that point, I was pressed for time. Had the |
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system need only /dev/{console,null} then all will be well. If not? |
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Then another cycle of LiveCD-mount-mknod-restart. |
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Much faster to just `genkernel initramfs` while waiting for the snafus |
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to be fixed |
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(Well, that, and I'm lazy) |
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>> null and console are the absolute irreducible minimum but there's one that |
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>> can be dispensed with if the correct kernel option is enabled. |
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>> We don't need everything that makedev traditionally provided (like every |
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>> block device type known to man, floppys and ancient ptys) but the rest |
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>> number about ~250 and are useful in single-user mode if udev fails to |
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>> start. |
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>> Considering that ~250 devices consumes a teeny-weeny bit of disk space and |
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>> they are hidden from view normally, I say it's worth it leaving them in. |
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>> Which is what vapier also says. |
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Agree. |
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> I see. In my head it is as if we're going against the udev principle of |
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> populating required device nodes. If udev does not start, isn't it time to |
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> head for the nearest LiveCD, or must we ensure that every breakage is fixable |
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> in single-user mode? |
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There are cases for each, but I personally prefer going single-user. |
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Especially when working on virtualized servers. |
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Rgds, |
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