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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Heiko Baums <lists@××××××××××××.de> wrote: |
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> Am 19.12.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Marc Joliet: |
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>> That is incorrect, systemd allows for overriding files in |
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>> /etc/systemd/system/${unit_name}.d/*.conf. |
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> Then this is very new. |
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They've been supported for quite a while (Mar 2013): |
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https://lwn.net/Articles/542609/ |
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Before then the most straightforward solution was to override the |
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entire unit, which was hardly difficult. There is a systemd utility |
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for helping you see what files might be able to removed from /etc in |
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favor of distro-supplied ones as they become available. |
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>> Furthermore, service units can |
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>> read environment variables from a file via EnvironmentFile. |
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> Initscripts can do the same. |
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Obviously. The claim was made that systemd units can't take |
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configuration from an outside file and had to be directly modified. |
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The point was just that this was incorrect. |
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>> I'm not convinced that you actually understand systemd particularly well. It |
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>> seems to me that if you want to develop an informed opinion about it, you |
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>> should: |
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> You don't need to be convinced. It's sufficient that I know systemd |
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> pretty well from the beginning when the Poettering fanboys of Arch Linux |
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> forced this crap onto the Arch Linux users, while they regularly were |
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> telling that they don't force it onto their users, that it will be only |
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> optional. |
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Clearly nobody forced you to run it, because you aren't running it |
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now. And if you wanted to run openrc on Arch you certainly could. |
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Nobody will help you do it, but it certainly can be done. I'm not |
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sure what the point of that would be, since the whole point of a |
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distribution is to share the workload of doing stuff like that with |
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people who are like-minded, and since you clearly disagree with the |
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Arch developers on this issue then it probably makes more sense to do |
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your own thing. |
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The beauty of FOSS is that you have the source, so you can make it |
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into whatever you want to be. How do you think we got openrc working |
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on Gentoo in the first place? |
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Nobody is going to waste their time trying to convince you that |
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systemd is better than anything else, because in the end your opinion |
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doesn't actually affect us. People who prefer systemd will maintain |
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it, and people who prefer openrc will maintain that, and we can all be |
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happy. |
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Rich |
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