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Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de> writes: |
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> But why attacking Dirk for his valid question? The OP has complained |
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> in two threads about compiling. If you don't like compiling, gentoo |
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> is not for you. |
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If Dirk wants to ask a question about why people should not use gentoo |
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if they don't like to compile KDE, let him start a thread about it. |
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Don't hijack a thread about getting rid of the various components. |
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(and what was the other complaint you mention?) |
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And anyway a moments thought would have given him the answer. There is |
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no mystery there, |
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That someone finds gentoo worthwhile even though they don't like the |
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time sink involved in compiling kde is not mysterious or hard to |
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understand. It wasn't an innocent `gosh I'm just interested' question. |
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OP wrote: |
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> I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo |
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> compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost |
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> jacking around with kde during upgrades. |
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Armin, |
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That is not a complaint. Just a statement of fact. |
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And let me repeat. Not liking to compile lengthy things does not make |
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gentoo wrong for me. It's not up to you to decide that for me. |
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Armin wrote: |
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> besides, he is one of the more knowledgeable persons on this list - |
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> you shall not fight with them, you loose to many helpfull answers |
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> that way. |
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That's true and god knows I've needed plenty of help over the yrs, but |
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there comes a point where wiseass, off subject, putdowns need to be |
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dealt with. |
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Dirks style is to pull out some piece of a query and then take off on |
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that instead of dealing with the subject. It derails the thread as |
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you've seen |
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I've gotten lots of good answers from you about a host of subjects and |
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I thank you for it. They've been well appreciated. I don't recall any |
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of your responses asking pointless questions not on subject that |
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derail the thread either. They've been short and to the point. |
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Usually cutting right to the chase. |
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But it seems people here have a sore point about compiling. Any |
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mention of it being time consuming or a right pain in the butt, brings |
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out commentary about how gentoo is not for that person. |
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You may like the advantages compiling from scratch holds for you... so |
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you do it gladly. Does not mean you have to like it. |
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Do you actually like compiling?... You like taking hours and hours to |
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get a current system if you fall behind? I really doubt that. So you |
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make adjustments to deal with it. Compiling at night, ditching hefty |
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items that are not really that useful, etc etc. |
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Kde no longer holds enough useful advantages for me to put up with the |
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compiling. Simple as that... no underlying dig about gentoo there. |
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No need to respond that gentoo is not for me. |
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I have a good idea of what gentoo is about, You might have seen my |
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name here for yrs now. Its still a pain in that butt to loose hours |
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and hours to compile KDE. So I ditched it. Finding all I need in |
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blackbox. |
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You may not have seen the first post, but I gave a clear reason as to |
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what I was up to in the very first message: |
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OP wrote: |
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> I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo |
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> compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost |
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> jacking around with kde during upgrades. |
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> But also I'd forgotten what the oldtime linux desktops were like. |
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> fvwm was the main one in use when I started circa 1997. |
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> I see blackbox is even a bit more stark... but since I am mainly |
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> command line oriented it doesn't present a problem. |
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[...] And then on to the question about getting rid of |
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kde-base/arts. |
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Its completely obvious there what is going on. I'm moving to a |
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desktop more in keeping with my mostly commandline way of working. |
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Yrs ago I started using KDE for what seems a small reason. You could |
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pull stuff around in the pager. A feature I was used to from using |
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fvwm. But fvwm was falling out of use in redhat about that time. |
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Gnome and KDE were the desktops easiest to get working then. |
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(Gentoo didn't exist yet at that time ( I don't think ) Not even Enoch |
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was available yet.) |
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But in the early days of GNOME its pager did not have that capability. |
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You had to change to the other desktop to move an application or |
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xterm so I chose kde because I liked the pager better. |
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After that I just got used to using kde. When I moved to gentoo |
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several yrs ago I stayed with kde |
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Now I'm rediscovering the simplicity of a desktop like blackbox. (And |
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you can move stuff around in its pager to boot) |