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From: gottlieb@×××.edu
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 18:27:17
Message-Id: 87ob85st54.fsf@nyu.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On Thu, Sep 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
2
3 > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt <w41ter@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >> On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottlieb@×××.edu wrote:
5 >>> [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for
6 >>> gnome-3.8. I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building
7 >>> that one up.]
8 >>>
9 >>> On my main system (currently running openrc) I have masked all of
10 >>> gnome-3.8. I wonder if this was an error and I can remove the
11 >>> mask. Is it the case that
12 >>>
13 >>> 1. Running openrc instead of systemd means you must mask gnome-3.8
14 >>>
15 >>> or
16 >>>
17 >>> 2. It is ok to emerge gnome-3.8 without a mask but some pieces will
18 >>> stay at 3.6?
19 >>>
20 >>> In other words can I eliminate my file
21 >>> /etc/portage/package.mask/gnome-3.8
22 >>> with all the 3.8 builds?
23 >>
24 >> Well, Canek is the systemd guru in this group, but I have been able
25 >> to boot my ~amd64 test machine successfully using *either* openrc or
26 >> systemd.
27 >>
28 >> This was a pleasant surprise to me because Canek posted not long ago
29 >> that openrc is now incompatible with systemd.
30 >
31 > I'm pretty sure I never said such thing. Both sys-apps/systemd and
32 > sys-apps/openrc satisfy virtual/service-manager, so if you installed
33 > systemd, OpenRC was depcleaned some days ago, but since bug 373219[1]
34 > hasn't been closed, they added OpenRC into the @system set, so now
35 > it's not even depcleaned. You can put -*sys-apps/openrc in
36 > /etc/portage/profile/package to solve that.
37 >
38 > No incompatibility, and I never said that.
39 >
40 >> Canek, please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a bit lost in the
41 >> details of the gnome3/systemd update at the moment.
42 >
43 > I believe you can install OpenRC and systemd in parallel without
44 > problems. GNOME 3 will pull systemd when installed, but that doesn't
45 > mean you will need to uninstall OpenRC. However, several GNOME
46 > packages (including gdm, if I'm not mistaken) will fail if not running
47 > with systemd as PID=1.
48 >
49 > I don't know how well it works OpenRC parallel installed with systemd,
50 > I haven't used it in years.
51 >
52 > Regards.
53 >
54 > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219
55
56 Canek, Thanks for this information. But what about my original
57 question, namely
58
59 Can I remove my masks and let gnome-3.8 replace 3.6 (to the
60 extent portage let's it) while I am running openrc and do
61 *not* have systemd installed?
62
63 thanks,
64 allan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>