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From: "b.n." <brullonulla@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:07:23
Message-Id: 495CC0A3.2040305@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto:
2 > On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
3 >> On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said:
4 >>> after the emerge you read the messages with elogv and downgrade. No harm
5 >>> done.
6 >> I'll be sure to try that, thank you. However, would not avoiding a bad
7 >> upgrade in the first place be a better-behaved tool? Especially when the
8 >> package in question "knew" that it was likely incompatible?
9 >>
10 >> I'm not saying that this could not be avoided with more work, I'm saying
11 >> that I shouldn't have to if the tools were better behaved.
12 >>
13 >> Cheers,
14 >> Mike
15 >
16 > how should 'the tool' know what card you are using?
17
18 The tool knew -in fact it told him of the breakage , *after* doing it.
19
20 > and even if portage could
21 > parse lspci output - why make it slower and more easily to break if all
22 > breakage can be avoided by simply reading first - then upgrading?
23
24 If you don't know there's something to read...
25
26 > Do you
27 > always install the latest drivers without reading up on them first?
28
29 Usually, yes. Could be my fault, but am I expected to read technical
30 docs everytime I update a package?
31 Anyway, the system *knows* that there's a problem, so your point is
32 moot. The only thing we're asking is to warn and stop *before* and not
33 *after*.
34
35 > Nvidia's 'deprecation' strategy is a pain in the ass and they are doing it for
36 > a long time now. So this time it bit you. Next time it will be 6XXX card
37 > users, then 7XXX card users and so on. That is why you have to go to nvnews
38 > first and then upgrade. Not the other way round.
39
40 Thanks for advice.
41
42 m.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late Matt Causey <matt.causey@×××××.com>