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From: Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:12:24
Message-Id: 20160616221158.fbb5a60854f82b81ff1ee465@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages? by James
1 On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:27:29 +0000 (UTC) James wrote:
2 > José Maldonado <josemald89 <at> gmail.com> writes:
3 >
4 >
5 > > The last days, ArsTechnica publish this new:
6 >
7 > >
8 > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/goodbye-apt-and-yum-ubuntus-snap-apps-are-coming-to-distros-everywhere/
9 > >
10 > > "Snaps now work natively on Arch, Debian, Fedora, Kubuntu, Lubuntu,
11 > > Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Unity, and Xubuntu,"
12 > > Canonical's announcement says. "They are currently being validated on
13 > > CentOS, Elementary, Gentoo, Mint, OpenSUSE, OpenWrt and RHEL, and are
14 > > easy to enable on other Linux distributions." (Ubuntu will continue to
15 > > support deb packages, but developers can choose to package applications
16 > > as snaps instead of or in addition to debs.)"
17 > >
18 > > Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages? Why not Flatpak?
19 >>
20 >> Thank you very much for your responses! Bye! :)
21 >>
22 >
23 > One word SECURITY? Trust but verify does come to mind.
24
25 +1
26 It looks like C:/Program Files/ for Linux to me.
27
28 It is a complete bundle with all dependency libs, thus
29 vulnerabilities can't be fixed by a regular emerge and users will
30 need to update _each_ snap separately. If updates will be
31 available, but likely they will not be, at least not in time.
32
33 I'm not talking about tremendous RAM waste (due to shared objects
34 duplication) and disk space waste as well. Both of them can be
35 mitigated by deduplication of RAM and disk pages, but this will eat
36 lots of CPU and users should be quite advanced to do that.
37
38 > Containers are not exactly the most secure apparatus, imho.
39 > "Clair is an open source project for the static analysis of vulnerabilities
40 > in appc and docker containers." [1]. So, I want to hear about the robustness
41 > of the security on these 'self containerd packages.
42
43 There is a security audit of the snap already available:
44 http://kmkeen.com/maintainers-matter/2016-06-15-11-51-16-472.html
45
46 It is quite lengthy, but worth reading.
47 Tl;dr: if you care about security of your box, stay away of this
48 stuff.
49
50 Best regards,
51 Andrew Savchenko

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