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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:17:35
Message-Id: 201201052015.29333.michaelkintzios@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 by Michael Mol
1 On Thursday 05 Jan 2012 18:20:16 Michael Mol wrote:
2 > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
3 wrote:
4 > > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:50:45 +0100
5 > >
6 > > pk <peterk2@××××××××.se> wrote:
7 > >> On 2012-01-05 13:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:
8 > >> > If /usr is local, what really is the point of having it separate
9 > >> > from /? Have you ever found a Linux system in any condition that
10 > >> > could not start just because the stuff in /usr was available? I
11 > >> > haven't.
12 > >> >
13 > >> > Even the split between bin and sbin is arbitrary. It's only there so
14 > >> > that users can take sbin out of PATH and not have the screen
15 > >> > cluttered with endless junk when they tab-tab. It makes much more
16 > >> > sense to me to just have one single bin and lib location and shove
17 > >> > everything into it.
18 > >>
19 > >> I'm not an admin of a large organization so what do I know... but, I
20 > >> still can appreciate the flexibility and "tidyness" it[2] gives you
21 > >> in a multi-user system. I also can see this from a security point of
22 > >> view ("keep the cool toys from the children")... I personally like it
23 > >> for my very local computer as well for the above reasons (flex./tidy).
24 > >>
25 > >> 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
26 > >>
27 > >> What you are basically saying is that everything "we" have learned
28 > >> about computer systems should be abolished and we adapt the
29 > >> monolithic, "black box" philosophy of newish systems like Windows.
30 > >> That's how I interpret what you're saying (yes, I do know hardware
31 > >> has changed since the 60'ies but not that radically, IMO)... I tend
32 > >> to think of Unix as "Lego" where you have lots of little bits with
33 > >> clean(ish) interfaces with which you can build whatever you want.dual
34 > >
35 > > Good analogy. I also like building systems from individual Lego bricks.
36 > > I don't like having to build the bricks themselves first :-)
37 > >
38 > > Windows goes too far to the other extreme IMO. That OS seems to have
39 > > largely abandoned control and there's not much in the way of
40 > > structure. Too little control is just as bad as too much
41 >
42 > Apparently they're going the 'app store' route in Windows 8.
43
44 They're just playing catch up with Apple instead of trying to innovate.
45 --
46 Regards,
47 Mick

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