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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:22:11
Message-Id: CA+czFiCdzDsTVoR95E+Fsyuji6vQcbuBD47mmyirKQGcUg9DLw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 by Alan McKinnon
1 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:50:45 +0100
3 > pk <peterk2@××××××××.se> wrote:
4 >
5 >> On 2012-01-05 13:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:
6 >> > If /usr is local, what really is the point of having it separate
7 >> > from /? Have you ever found a Linux system in any condition that
8 >> > could not start just because the stuff in /usr was available? I
9 >> > haven't.
10 >> >
11 >> > Even the split between bin and sbin is arbitrary. It's only there so
12 >> > that users can take sbin out of PATH and not have the screen
13 >> > cluttered with endless junk when they tab-tab. It makes much more
14 >> > sense to me to just have one single bin and lib location and shove
15 >> > everything into it.
16 >>
17 >> I'm not an admin of a large organization so what do I know... but, I
18 >> still can appreciate the flexibility and "tidyness" it[2] gives you
19 >> in a multi-user system. I also can see this from a security point of
20 >> view ("keep the cool toys from the children")... I personally like it
21 >> for my very local computer as well for the above reasons (flex./tidy).
22 >>
23 >> 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
24 >>
25 >> What you are basically saying is that everything "we" have learned
26 >> about computer systems should be abolished and we adapt the
27 >> monolithic, "black box" philosophy of newish systems like Windows.
28 >> That's how I interpret what you're saying (yes, I do know hardware
29 >> has changed since the 60'ies but not that radically, IMO)... I tend
30 >> to think of Unix as "Lego" where you have lots of little bits with
31 >> clean(ish) interfaces with which you can build whatever you want.dual
32 >>
33 >
34 > Good analogy. I also like building systems from individual Lego bricks.
35 > I don't like having to build the bricks themselves first :-)
36 >
37 > Windows goes too far to the other extreme IMO. That OS seems to have
38 > largely abandoned control and there's not much in the way of
39 > structure. Too little control is just as bad as too much
40
41 Apparently they're going the 'app store' route in Windows 8.
42
43 --
44 :wq

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>