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On 05/20/20 23:24, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> First, stop top-posting, and fix your quoting. This is a mess to try |
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> to reply to, and your update woes are bad enough to stare at... |
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sorry, I've just posted as I've thought it was most meaningful. I'm not |
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sure what you mean by quoting ... I'm using thunderbird ... can you |
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recommend another mail agent? |
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> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 4:51 PM n952162 <n952162@×××.de> wrote: |
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>> Well, you're talking about openssl here. I'm trying to go a step at a time and looking at the first conflict in that first log file: zlib. |
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> You'll have to give me the full command line and output of that if you |
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> want me to comment. |
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> This seems to be a bit of a trend in your emails. You almost always |
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> ask a question without including the command line and output. When |
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> you do include output you often trim it, which makes it much harder to |
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> tell what is going on. |
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In the posting that you orignally responded to, at 21:06 (my time), I'd |
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included this and attached the full log: |
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emerge -vu dev-qt/qtgui dev-qt/qtx11extras dev-qt/qtopengl |
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dev-qt/qtprintsupport dev-qt/qtwidgets dev-qt/qtxml |
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dev-qt/linguist-tools dev-qt/qtnetwork dev-qt/qtsvg dev-qt/qtcore |
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Again, I think attaching the log is less confusing than just dumping it |
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into the stream, but maybe that's wrong. |
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>> Isn't the source and build instructions to everything on my system here, too? |
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>> I mean, if it had to rebuild all the users of zlib, but wasn't being requested to update them. |
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> No. The build instructions are in the repository. When you updated |
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> it, you discarded the ebuilds for any no-longer-supported package |
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> versions. |
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>> Something that might also help is running: |
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>> emerge -auDv --changed-use --keep-going --with-bdeps=y --changed-deps |
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>> --backtrack=100 @system |
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>> Attached ... |
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> 1. You should update all the files in /etc and then run that command again. |
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> 2. Did portage not actually let you proceed with the update? As far |
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> as I can tell none of those errors are fatal. |
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> Assuming that nothing new comes up after you update all your config |
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> files in /etc I would proceed with this update. It certainly won't |
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> fix all your problems (which is why you have a mountain of messages |
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> after the list of packages that will be updated), but it will get a |
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> ton of system packages and your toolchain up-to-date, and will |
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> probably make it considerably easier to sort through the rest of the |
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> updates. |
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> The @system set is largely independent of anything else, so getting it |
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> updated makes everything else easier. |
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Okay, that's what I'll do (tomorrow). |
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>> Actually, I installed this system just a month or two ago, but I used |
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>> a CD I burned of the minimal-install-disk that is perhaps a year |
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>> old. I wanted to have all my systems have the same basis, until I |
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>> proficient enough to do a stage-1 installation ... I guess this is the |
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>> way I'm learning how to get there :-( |
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> Two things: |
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> First, that seems a bit odd, since if you did an emerge --sync before |
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> doing the install you should have been installing new packages |
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> regardless of what was on the install disk, especially if you |
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> downloaded a current stage3. I guess if you used an old stage3 and |
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> didn't update anything then you'd be in that state, but you wouldn't |
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> have anything not in @system that way. |
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> Second, there is no benefit to doing a stage1 install really except in |
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> some unusual bootstrapping situations like building install media. |
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> You get an identical system if you do a stage1 install, or if you do a |
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> stage3 install and at the end do an emerge -e @world. The difference |
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> is that you can actually use your system while the latter rebuilds, vs |
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> a stage1 where it takes ages before you can just about anything with |
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> it. |
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The beauty of gentoo is that it's source. But that's just a fantasy if |
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I use the stage3 tarball. |
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I think. |