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Am 31.07.2014 03:55, schrieb Walter Dnes: |
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> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:31:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote |
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>> Am 30.07.2014 21:48, schrieb Dale: |
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>>> While to me KDE is bloated, I just try to disable what I can and carry |
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>>> on. If my system was limited on resources, then I may use something else. |
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>> and maybe you did exactly the wrong thing. KDE is very modular and |
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>> reuses its modules as much as it can. Which also means: memory is only |
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>> used once. |
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>> There were once a very good (in my not so humble opinion. It think very |
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>> highly of myself) comparism here: |
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>> http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ |
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>> (url is dead btw) |
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>> and if you actually use kde apps in kde - memory consumption is lower |
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>> than in either gnome or 'leightweight' solutions like xfce or |
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>> windowmaker+stuff. |
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>> http://web.archive.org/web/20071229030604/http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html |
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> The problem with KDE apps is that they're imitating what MS did with |
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> Internet Explorer. They pointed to the itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny little |
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> "ie.exe" that you could delete if you felt like doing so. They |
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> deliberately obfuscated that it was merely a front end to a ton of |
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> system libraries that you could not remove. Back when xpdf was being |
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> deprecated, various replacement options were suggested. I chose mupdf |
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> rather than the KDE app "okular". Here's why. After multiple attempts |
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> at "emerge -pv okular", I found I had to add at least the following to |
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> package.use to get it to work... |
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> |
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> dev-libs/libattica qt4 |
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> media-libs/phonon vlc |
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> media-video/vlc dbus xcb -ffmpeg |
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> dev-qt/qtcore qt3support |
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> dev-qt/qtdeclarative accessibility qt3support |
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> dev-qt/qtgui accessibility qt3support |
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> dev-qt/qtopengl qt3support |
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> dev-qt/qt3support accessibility |
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> dev-qt/qtsql qt3support sqlite |
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> dev-qt/qtsvg accessibility |
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> sys-libs/ncurses unicode |
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> Seems that if I want to emerge and use KDE's "pdf reader", I need... |
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> phonon |
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> vlc (or gstreamer) |
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> libmpeg |
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> libmad |
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> net-dns/libidn |
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> dev-qt/qtwebkit |
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> ...***FOR A STINKING PDF READER***. Here's the "emerge -pv okular" |
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okular is not a 'stinking pdf reader'. Nice try. But just like konqueror |
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it is just a wrapper around kparts and is able to deal with a lot more |
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files than just pdf and postscript. |
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That is what 'modular' and 'code reuse' really means. |
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And the opposite to what gnome does. 'oh, there is an app. Hijack it and |
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gnomify it and make it dependent on 2 douzend gnome libs that all do the |
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same but nobody ever cleaned up'. |
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> output with USE flag listings edited out... |
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you know - useflags or tree would have been so much more meaningful... |
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> [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv okular | sed " s/USE.*$//" |
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> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: |
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> Calculating dependencies .... done! |
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> [ebuild R ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:5 |
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> [ebuild N ] net-dns/libidn-1.28 |
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> [ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-4.12.5:4/4.12 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libpcre-8.35:3 |
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> [ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-qtgraphicssystem-1.1.1 0 kB |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5-r2:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtscript-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r3:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtsql-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qt3support-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtsvg-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qttest-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/designer-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtopengl-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtxmlpatterns-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-2.0.3:2 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtdeclarative-4.8.5:4 |
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> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.2-r1 |
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> [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.5.1-r2 |
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> [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b-r7 |
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> [ebuild N ] media-video/vlc-2.1.2:0/5-7 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-util/automoc-0.9.88 9 kB |
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> [ebuild N ] kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.12.5:4/4.12 |
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> [ebuild N ] media-libs/qimageblitz-0.0.6-r1 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libattica-0.4.2 |
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> [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.2 |
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> [ebuild N ] app-misc/strigi-0.7.8 |
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> [ebuild N ] media-libs/phonon-4.6.0-r1 |
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> [ebuild N ] media-libs/phonon-vlc-0.6.2 |
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> [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.5-r1:4/4.12 |
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> [ebuild N ] kde-base/katepart-4.12.5:4/4.12 |
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> [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkexiv2-4.12.5:4/4.12 |
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> [ebuild N ] kde-base/okular-4.12.5-r1:4/4.12 |
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> Total: 35 packages (34 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 309,990 kB |
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