Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:31:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
> Am 30.07.2014 21:48, schrieb Dale:
>
> > While to me KDE is bloated, I just try to disable what I can and carry
> > on.  If my system was limited on resources, then I may use something else.
>
> and maybe you did exactly the wrong thing. KDE is very modular and
> reuses its modules as much as it can. Which also means: memory is only
> used once.
>
> There were once a very good (in my not so humble opinion. It think very
> highly of myself) comparism here:
>
> http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
> (url is dead btw)
>
> and if you actually use kde apps in kde - memory consumption is lower
> than in either gnome or 'leightweight' solutions like xfce or
> windowmaker+stuff.
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20071229030604/http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html

  The problem with KDE apps is that they're imitating what MS did with
Internet Explorer.  They pointed to the itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny little
"ie.exe" that you could delete if you felt like doing so.  They
deliberately obfuscated that it was merely a front end to a ton of
system libraries that you could not remove.   Back when xpdf was being
deprecated, various replacement options were suggested.  I chose mupdf
rather than the KDE app "okular".  Here's why.  After multiple attempts
at "emerge -pv okular", I found I had to add at least the following to
package.use to get it to work...

dev-libs/libattica qt4
media-libs/phonon vlc
media-video/vlc dbus xcb -ffmpeg
dev-qt/qtcore qt3support
dev-qt/qtdeclarative accessibility qt3support
dev-qt/qtgui accessibility qt3support 
dev-qt/qtopengl qt3support
dev-qt/qt3support accessibility
dev-qt/qtsql qt3support sqlite
dev-qt/qtsvg accessibility
sys-libs/ncurses unicode

  Seems that if I want to emerge and use KDE's "pdf reader", I need...

phonon
vlc (or gstreamer)
libmpeg
libmad
net-dns/libidn
dev-qt/qtwebkit

...***FOR A STINKING PDF READER***.  Here's the "emerge -pv okular"
output with USE flag listings edited out...

[d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv okular | sed " s/USE.*$//"

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  .... done!
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:5  
[ebuild  N     ] net-dns/libidn-1.28  
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/kde-env-4.12.5:4/4.12  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-libs/libpcre-8.35:3  
[ebuild  N     ] app-admin/eselect-qtgraphicssystem-1.1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5-r2:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtscript-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r3:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtsql-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qt3support-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtsvg-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qttest-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/designer-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtopengl-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtxmlpatterns-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] app-crypt/qca-2.0.3:2  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-qt/qtdeclarative-4.8.5:4  
[ebuild  N     ] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.2-r1  
[ebuild  N     ] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.5.1-r2  
[ebuild  N     ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b-r7  
[ebuild  N     ] media-video/vlc-2.1.2:0/5-7  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-util/automoc-0.9.88  9 kB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.12.5:4/4.12  
[ebuild  N     ] media-libs/qimageblitz-0.0.6-r1  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-libs/libattica-0.4.2  
[ebuild  N     ] dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.2  
[ebuild  N     ] app-misc/strigi-0.7.8  
[ebuild  N     ] media-libs/phonon-4.6.0-r1  
[ebuild  N     ] media-libs/phonon-vlc-0.6.2  
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.5-r1:4/4.12  
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/katepart-4.12.5:4/4.12  
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/libkexiv2-4.12.5:4/4.12  
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/okular-4.12.5-r1:4/4.12  

Total: 35 packages (34 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 309,990 kB


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Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications