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From: Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:42:25
Message-Id: 20120225124105.GA25818@eisen.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me? by Dale
1 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 05:34:25AM -0600, Dale wrote:
2
3 > > There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good
4 > > American. The only man who
5 > > is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
6 > > -Theodore Roosevelt,
7 > > 1915
8
9 Reminds me of the new P.C. term for a blonde -- a breasted American. ;-)
10
11 > > Gentoo is for everyone. And I love it!
12
13 > I used to be on dial-up as most old timers here may recall. Here are
14 > the bad things: Libreoffice and a full KDE upgrade. It would take me
15 > DAYS to download everything. Heck, it takes me a while and I have DSL
16 > now. Just be prepared.
17 >
18 > I don't know about your area but here, DSL was cheaper than dial-up when
19 > I first got it. Right now, they are the same price, last I checked on
20 > the dial-up prices anyway. You may want to check those prices IF you
21 > can get DSL.
22 >
23 > Is Gentoo doable, yea. Does it take patience, yep it does. Dial-up is
24 > slow.
25
26 It's just as slow for binary people. And if you're not using something very
27 static, you have just as much download volume I reckon. I have Debian testing
28 on my old laptop and when I update it just after a few weeks on absence,
29 there's always a new patch release of KDE, libreoffice and the kernel. All in
30 all there's always more than 500 megs of DL.
31 The only difference for us Gentooans is that we always have the development
32 files included which create some overhead. OTOH, for new kernel version we even
33 have the advantage -- on binary distros, each patch release means to download
34 35-40 megs of precompiled modules, whereas we only download the 80 MB sources
35 once for a subrelease, and for each subsequent patch only need a few
36 additional kB.
37
38 I second the suggestion that, if you decide to stay with Gentoo, you just need
39 to keep the sources of all installed packages. I used to have an unstable VPN
40 connection which counted my traffic, so I kept all installed distfiles in case
41 I needed to rebuild someting (changed useflags, revdep-rebuild, etc).
42 eclean-dist is a good helper here, which will delete only those files whose
43 packages aren't installed (any more).
44 --
45 Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
46 I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services.
47
48 The perfect diet: no breakfast in the morning,
49 in return forego pudding at lunch and then go to bed without dinner.