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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:07:30
Message-Id: 201002101204.57903.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? by Neil Bothwick
1 On Wednesday 10 February 2010 11:38:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:36 -0600, Dale wrote:
3 > > > hal is a classic "Second System Effect" case
4 > > >
5 > > > But I thought we thrashed this to death a while ago and all agreed to
6 > > > never speak of this abomination again, while we await the Third
7 > > > System Effect aka DeviceKit?
8 > >
9 > > From what I read it appears to be the same guy doing both. Maybe,
10 > >
11 > > just maybe, some lessons were learned and it will be a lot better.
12 >
13 > Isn't that the point of redoing it? It's when someone else comes along
14 > with brand new way of doing things that we get a whole load of brand new
15 > problems?
16
17 It really is the same guy. His blog said something to the effect of:
18
19 "hal is a load of crap. I knew it long ago, the other devs knew it slightly
20 less longer ago and the users now know it too. We were trying to do too much
21 and shoehorn too many things into the same boxes that belonged in different
22 boxes. I'm fed up trying to maintain this steaming mess, will not be adding
23 new features, and wash my hands of it. I'll be doing a rewrite called
24 DeviceKit."
25
26 So kudos to the man for recognizing the real problem, admitting it, and moving
27 onto a real solution. Nothing wrong with making a mistake and fixing it -
28 that's how we learn.
29
30 Personally, my mistakes teach me MUCH more than my successes - I then know
31 what not to do :-)
32
33 --
34 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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