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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:39:20
Message-Id: CADPrc83rUNrM4FDYW40K_RPdAir05-ZZ2c+06F1T=_iLhiks6g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch? by covici@ccs.covici.com
1 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM, <covici@××××××××××.com> wrote:
2 > Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >
4 >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, András Csányi <sayusi.ando@××××××.hu> wrote:
5 >> > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com> wrote:
6 >> >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote:
7 >> >>>
8 >> >>> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
9 >> >>>>
10 >> >>>> This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind
11 >> >>>> ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally
12 >> >>>> intended.
13 >> >>>
14 >> >>>
15 >> >>> not possible, logind since systemd >= 205 requires systemd and won't
16 >> >>> work on openrc, upstart, and such
17 >> >>> as in, the idea of using logind outside of systemd is a dead end
18 >> >>>
19 >> >>> so keeping ConsoleKit in portage for long as it works for long as we
20 >> >>> need openrc for Linux based systems
21 >> >>> and when it no longer works, the contingency plan is to ship vendor
22 >> >>> based polkit files that possibly either restore 'plugdev' group or
23 >> >>> provide similar groups to ArchLinux like 'network', 'storage', 'power'
24 >> >>> to split up the old 'plugdev'
25 >> >>
26 >> >>
27 >> >> Wouldn't it be better to switch to systemd instead?
28 >> >
29 >> > Is there a migration guide? According to google there is no any. (or I
30 >> > haven't spend enough time to search)
31 >>
32 >> You have the wiki:
33 >>
34 >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd
35 >>
36 >> I believe it covers the most important aspects of the migration. Also,
37 >> it is so much easier now; we even have a stable version on systemd in
38 >> the tree.
39 >
40 > Couldn't emerge systemd its blocked by udev -- did a google search, but
41 > found some very confusing posts to do with static-libs.
42
43 systemd *is* udev; they are the same package. Uninstall the Gentoo
44 packaging of udev (which basically strips systemd), install systemd,
45 and it includes the official udev.
46
47 Regards.
48 --
49 Canek Peláez Valdés
50 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
51 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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