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Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> I'm not sure why you want to do this or what your line of |
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> reasoning is. A stage 1 gentoo install is very similar to |
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> building LFS, except that you don't have to type './configure |
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> && make && sudo make install' 300 times. Well, conceptually |
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> similar at least. |
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> The whole point of LFS is to do it by hand and see how it all |
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> works at an even lower level than gentoo provides. You could |
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> use portage to automate the LFS build process, but then you end |
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> up with essentially a clone of gentoo. I say this as someone |
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> who has built an LFS as a learning exercise then moved on to |
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> gentoo for pragmatic reasons. |
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> Perhaps if you explained why you want to try this and especially |
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> what you want to accomplish, then we can advise you better. |
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My aim is to have the ability to regularly build and maintain |
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completely customized Linux systems. I simply don't want to be |
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dependent - at any stage - on the whims or habits of a distribution. |
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While LFS allows me to build a completely customized Linux system, it |
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takes, as you say, a lot of time and effort to build a single one. |
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Also, it offers nothing in the sense of package-management. |
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So, what I'm looking for is something to automate the LFS |
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build-process and to do it under some system of package-management. |
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Portage seemls likely to meet those needs. |
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>From what I read about stage1 and stage2, they both come as is, which |
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is somewhat problematic for my needs (for examle, if I want to use one |
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version of gcc instead of another). Even if stage1 is used 'out of the |
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box', some mechanism should be in place in order to build a new system |
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on a chroot environment, no? |
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The ROOT variable is probably a major part of the solution, but is it |
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enough? I've also found '/usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh', which |
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seems suspiciously relevant, but comes with little external |
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documentation. |
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> > Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages |
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> > from this list |
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> Nope. Asking that is exceptionally rude. I wade through 200+ |
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> messages per day looking for places I can assist others. The |
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> least you can do is subscribe to the list like everyone else |
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> (and how did you manage to post without a subscription?), and |
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> download the same looking for replies to your question. |
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> Besides, the answers you get might help someone else. |
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I'm sorry that you find my request rude. I would rather not go through |
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200 messages every day if I could help it, and I personally don't find |
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it too troublesome to add an address to the CC line. Replying to the |
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list and having me as CC will obviously not prevent others to take |
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place in the discussion or read it later on as reference. |
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At any case, I would look in online archives to search for any |
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messages which haven't reached me. |
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Alon |
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PS. |
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Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages from this list |
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