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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Random reboots. Where to start?
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:53:47
Message-Id: AANLkTi=jiGg1-2E0z_BK4x7_+osx7mFg6Be9K6QQ2kEt@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Random reboots. Where to start? by Peter Humphrey
1 2011/3/1 Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××××.org>:
2 > On Tuesday 01 March 2011 23:14:12 Mick wrote:
3 >
4 >> Ha! I remember on an old machine when in WinXP would rarely if ever
5 >> crash, while in Gentoo would crash every time.
6 >
7 > My machine is only about a year old, built by a specialist builder of high-
8 > performance systems, so it shouldn't be experiencing hardware failures.
9 >
10 >> Different OS' use memory differently.
11 >
12 > Indeed they do. My experience is the converse of yours: Gentoo does not
13 > hang, while Fedora and Mandriva do. It's not a problem with a particular
14 > area of the disks, as I've installed them both in different partitions and
15 > got the same result. I assume that some kernel options don't suit my
16 > motherboard. Don't all laugh, but it's an Asus P7P55D.
17 >
18 >> After a year or so though the WinXP installation eventually corrupted
19 >> itself irreparably, while Gentoo (on reiserfs) soldiered on. Eventually, I
20 >> bought new memory modules and there were no more crashes.
21 >
22 > Maybe I need to replace the memory. That's a bit drastic though when I
23 > haven't actually proved it faulty.
24
25 Yes, I tend to agree. You could end up replacing the memory only to
26 find out that the crashes persist.
27
28
29 >> memtest 86+ showed no errors, so I didn't know what to blame for all
30 >> these crashes.
31 >
32 > It's well known that test programs can't stress a computer the way real life
33 > does. It was true of Ferranti Argus 500 systems in 1974, and I'm sure it's
34 > still true today.
35
36 I remember using a script which put the system (memory modules and
37 swap) through its paces. That did show me some errors which made me
38 replace the memory. I can't recall where I found that script, but
39 remember it being aired in this mailing list.
40
41
42 >> After close observation I discovered that the machine would crash the
43 >> moment it tried to start swapping.
44 >
45 > Interesting. As far as I can tell though this box doesn't swap often - it
46 > can go weeks without doing so. As I said the other day, my 4GB is enough to
47 > contain the work I usually do.
48 >
49 >> This would typically happen in the middle of an emerge, which was rather
50 >> annoying, and/or when updatedb was running.
51 >
52 > At least you could re-run an aborted emerge; when my box hangs it just stops
53 > responding to keyboard and mouse, and the network interface stops receiving
54 > packets so I can't ssh in from another box to shut it down neatly. It's BRS
55 > time.
56
57 No I couldn't. :-(
58
59 The whole system would freeze up, no keyboard, no network, no nothing.
60 I had to pull the plug every time.
61 --
62 Regards,
63 Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Random reboots. Where to start? Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>