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* Al <oss.elmar@××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> I think there is a future for second level managers that can be |
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> installed into multiple OS and yet set up the very same POSIX |
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> invironement. Having that you can build complex software that is |
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> portable. |
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IMHO the most work intensive stuff (on per-package basis) is all |
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the QM. Parts of it can be done generically, assisted by automatic |
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massbuilds and various auto-test mathods (some of them already |
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built into portage), but still leaving much target or even install |
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specific stuff (eg. will some package foo work properly with |
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certain cflags and libc-version X ?). |
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> You don't depend on Java. You don't need to run a virtual server. |
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You never really needed Java, but proper build systems. What we |
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could gain here is saving a lot of distro-specific extra works if |
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some distro like Gentoo directly works on different targets |
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environments. |
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The interesting point in Java is that it is an (well, was) an |
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very cleanly defined virtual machine (even virtual processor) |
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environment which can be emulated on virtually any known machine |
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(assuming it has enough resources). That could also work with |
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plain C, if the basic APIs are stricly and cleanly defined. |
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(see Plan9 vs. plan9port). |
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> Currently there are two canditates. One candidate is Cygwin Ports, the |
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> other one is Gentoo Prefix. Cygwin Ports just added cross-compilation |
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> features into the latest edition. Still Cygwin is limited to Windows. |
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Let me add a third candidate: Briegel. It's based on crosscompiling |
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from ground up. It's not really a distro, but more a generic build |
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system, as a basic building block for distro generation. But beware |
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that it's based on very different concepts than traditional distro |
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build systems. |
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cu |
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Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ |
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phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weigelt@×××××.de |
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