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From: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@××××××××××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NFS and user IDs
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:44:54
Message-Id: 5b1f87f9.OukSls7K4gxZAS2A%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] NFS and user IDs by Wols Lists
1 Wols Lists <antlists@××××××××××××.uk> wrote:
2
3 > On 11/06/18 09:54, Joerg Schilling wrote:
4 > > Well, "Windows ACLs" is the only ACL system that is standardized (as part of
5 > > the NFSv4 standard). The old proposal in POSIX.1e from 1993 from Sun has been
6 > > withdrawn in 1997 since the customers did not like it.
7 > >
8 > Ummm - just because it's standard doesn't mean it's any good :-)
9
10 Is is a result of a common discussion. At the same time, when Sun introduced
11 NFSv4 ACLs, IBM and Apple did the same for their local filesystems.
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13 > This version I'm talking about dates from about 1983. The company making
14 > it went bust in 1991.
15
16 What are you talking about?
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18 IIRC, the first ACLs have been on VMS in the late 1980s.
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20 > I've just had a quick look at the NFS v4 RFC, and almost the first thing
21 > I see is DENY entries. These ACLs don't have deny, because it's
22 > pointless. And DENY is exactly why I think Posix/Windows ACLs are
23 > confusing and hard to use.
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25 Your text looks confusing. You claim DENY entries and no DENY entries in the
26 same paragraph without explaining what you are talking about.
27
28 Jörg
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31 EMail:joerg@××××××.net (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
32 joerg.schilling@××××××××××××××××.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
33 URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sf.net/projects/schilytools/files/'

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