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From: gottlieb@×××.edu
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updating ALL packages
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:51:28
Message-Id: 87zjfy6wa5.fsf@nyu.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] updating ALL packages by Neil Bothwick
1 On Thu, Jul 24 2014, Neil Bothwick wrote:
2
3 > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 09:24:44 -0400, gottlieb@×××.edu wrote:
4 >
5 >> I had mistakenly thought this would update all packages not at the
6 >> latest version (subject to package.accept_keywords, package.mask, ...).
7 >
8 > It only updates runtime dependencies, you need --with-bdeps=y to update
9 > all dependencies.
10
11 Thank you and michael for this point.
12
13 > However, the default is no for a good reason, there's no need to
14 > update build time deps once the package is installed.
15
16 I see.
17
18 >> I now realize that it only does this for the packages in world and then
19 >> follows the dependency tree. So if package A in world is up to date, A
20 >> depends of B, and a new version of B appears, B will not be updated.
21 >>
22 >> As a result eix-test-obsolete finds that I have packages installed that
23 >> are no longer in the database.
24 >
25 > That shouldn't happen. If an installed package is removed for the tree,
26 > portage should either install the highest version that matches your
27 > settings or print a warning.
28
29 I am not sure if you consider the message from eix-test-obsolete
30 as the message from portage.
31
32 eix-test-obsolete prints (among other things)
33
34 Installed packages with a version not in the database (or masked):
35 [lines omitted]
36 [U] virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements (2.125.0@10/29/2013 -> (~)2.125.0-r1): Virtual for CPAN-Meta-Requirements
37
38 eix virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements prints
39
40 [U] virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements
41 Available versions: 2.122.0-r2 (~)2.125.0-r1
42 Installed versions: 2.125.0(09:25:35 PM 10/29/2013)
43
44 /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/goingstable contains
45 ~virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements-2.125.0
46
47 I thought this would be updated to 2.125.0-r1 but
48 my update world (withOUT bdeps=y) says nothing to merge
49 and prints no error or warning
50
51 >> I could do
52 >>
53 >> emerge --update the-2-dozen-such-packages
54 >>
55 >> Is that wise?
56 >
57 > No, as it will add them to world (this behaviour of -u appears to vary
58 > depending on portage version, wind direction and sunspot activity). Use
59 > --oneshot.
60
61 Understood. And I remember the discussion on the list about the meaning
62 of -u.
63
64 emerge -u -1 virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements
65 reveals what is probably my real problem
66
67 [ebuild U ~] virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements-2.125.0-r1 [2.125.0] 0 kB
68 [nomerge ] perl-core/CPAN-Meta-Requirements-2.125.0
69 [ebuild UD ] virtual/perl-version-0.990.100 [0.990.400] 0 kB
70 [ebuild UD ] perl-core/version-0.990.100 [0.990.400] 105 kB
71
72 upgrading virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements entails downgrading two
73 other perl packages (or bumping their version in goingstable, which I
74 remember you suggest).
75
76 I am going away for 2 weeks, but when I return I will look carefully at
77 the (mostly perl) files that eix-test-obsolete complains about. I am
78 hopeful that armed with emerge -u -1 and/or --with-bdeps=y I can remove
79 the warnings from eix-test-obsolete.
80
81 Once again, thank you both,
82 allan

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Re: [gentoo-user] updating ALL packages Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>