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On 1/22/07, Regis Decamps <decamps@××××××××.net> wrote: |
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> qfpvajdy wrote: |
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> > Hello, |
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> > I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo GNU/Linux at the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one day also for servers). |
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> > Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be forced to uses for everybody only one system. |
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> > I must probably convince the people to use Gentoo Linux against RedHat Scientific Linux and FreeBSD. |
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> > Does somebody has some good key arguments? |
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> No: I use Gentoo at home but could not imagine a place at my company. |
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> Gentoo requires a real internet connection when we are behind a |
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> restricted proxy |
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We are behind a restricted proxy in a secure environment at a govern |
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building, and yet I have a couple of servers and desktops running |
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Gentoo flawlessly for about an year. |
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> Gentoo requires a lot of administration. For instance: etc-update |
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> (dispatch-conf) needs to be run after a package upgrade |
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Only if you upgrade frequently, for ordinary use, you'll install and |
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upgrade specific packages, most do not require any intervention, while |
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when you decide to do a major upgrade you won't need a release CD with |
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lots of stuff you don't need, while burning your configs in the |
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upgrade process, besides you won't need to know the twelve packages |
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that will need upgrade to let you use the new/upgraded application. |
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> Gentoo takes time with compilation and requires fine tuning for things |
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> to work when we just a standard works-for-everybody application. |
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Time with compilation in a distributed environment with binary |
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packages is almost zero, if you want to, the fact is that Gentoo |
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serves ANY application, you just have to configure it ONCE and it's |
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ready for almost any environment. A bit of inicial tunning saves time |
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in a dozen later installs/upgrades. |
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> Gentoo is not appropriate for my company. Mandriva or Suse would be |
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> better choices. |
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For the above reasons, you should reconsider... |
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> > The mines are: |
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> > - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support and full integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems |
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> like any "desktop oriented" distribution. Red Hat, Suse and Mandriva, |
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> Ubuntu offer the same. |
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In fact, they don't, they offer releases, else you will have to use |
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their package management system to upgrade, and portage is the only |
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one who has never crashed on me beyond repair. |
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> > - high performance desktop |
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> Why do you compare only these three OS? Why is freebsd in this list? |
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> higher than the other Desktop distros? |
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I totally agree with that... |
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> In my opinion, Gentoo is not appropriate for most companies. Now it |
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> depends... What are your criteria? |
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> - support? Gentoo has a great community, but so do ubuntu or Mandriva. |
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> But Mandriva, Suse and red Hat offer paid support, ie someone to blame |
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> whan things don't work |
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You can buy support for Gentoo from any company that offers it, the |
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same as you can with almost any other distro... |
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> - configuration? Do you need fine configuration (gentoo wins)? |
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Easy configuration is better than fine, etc protection, rc-update, |
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portage itself, they're all systems that you can use to |
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distribute/automate configuration... |
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> - easyness or "put hands in the dirt"? |
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Gentoo is easy, you just have to get used to it, just like every other |
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distro out there... |
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> - cost of maintenance (I really doubt Gentoo wins) |
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It depends on the staff you have and/or the support you bought. Gentoo |
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has proven to be cheap and reliable. |
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