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From: Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not?
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:21:48
1 Michael Higgins wrote:
3 > Hello, folks --
4 >
5 > Most days, I work remotely from the 'ndoze net via rdesktop when I have
6 > to access it for some reason. But the bandwidth there is getting choked
7 > as others follow suit.
8 >
9 > I'm thinking I'd have a better time of it if I just had my own little
10 > toybox -- I mean, Windows XP installation -- at home. Sure, I can
11 > dual-boot, but then I lose the whole of my reasons for having a real
12 > OS. And I'd put up another machine, but I have enough anxiety over the
13 > ones I have to maintain already. Why bring that kind of trouble into
14 > your home?
15 >
16 > So, the quick question is, is VM Ware the best way to go? I think XP is
17 > still lurking on a partition here... and I do need to run Internet
18 > Extorter, Outlook, etc... pretend I'm in their "domain"...
19 >
20 > At any rate, I'm hoping some on the list can give me a leg up on this.
21 >
22 > My first question is, what does this mean to me:
23 >
24 > * app-emulation/vmware-workstation
25 >      Available versions: ~!f
26 > ~!f
27 >
28 > ... when I downloaded the evaluation license and a tar.gz, does that
29 > satisfy the "!f", for example? What do I do with it, then? I do notice
30 > the version number matches.
31 >
32 > And the other question I hate to ask -- I'm pretty sure there is one,
33 > but, if there is a Gentoo HOW-TO on this process, where is it and IS IT
34 > UP TO DATE??? ;-)
35 >
36 > Any and all pointers welcome!
37 >
38 > . . .
39 >
40 > I just read through a bunch of stuff on-line, found the vmware overlay,
41 > and I feel less sure of how to proceed than before writing this. '-)
42 >
43 > Cheers,
44 >
46 Hey Mike,
48 I passed on vmware for my use as it is quite the overkill for my simple
49 needs. Also, vmware does not currently run on the most recent kernels. And
50 secondly, you only get to use it for 30 days... the vmware workstation
51 evaluation copy that is.
53 Over here, I decided to go the qemu/kqemu route. Although I am only able to
54 emerge kqemu, with qemu-softmmu failing miserably... I was able to download
55 a binary off the Qemu website and it runs beautifully.
57 Although I don't like running windows in qemu... it's a resource hog bar none,
58 linux in qemu is a jewel. You can find excellent install and usage
59 instructions in the obvious places like the wiki, forums and the Qemu
60 webpage. You can also find a gem of an article about it on the LINUX
61 JOURNAL website. It'll give you quite a detailed howto with the windows
62 installation. My first qemu experiments involved windows98se and windows xp.
63 By a factor of maybe 2, windows xp was slower than molasses when compared to
64 win98se. Since then I've managed a few linux images and I've been thinking
65 about trying a BSD image just for the experience of it.
67 I don't know if vmware provides cow files, Qemu does... what this allows is
68 for you to setup your windows image anyway you want, then reload your qemu
69 image with cow file support enabled... and any modifications made during your
70 windows session is written to the cow file, not your windows image. If things
71 get really, really hashed up, closeup Qemu... delete the cow file and start
72 afresh... A perfect way to dump the worms, viri, malware, etc... or your
73 accidentally hosed linux image...
75 Really, really good stuff.
77 Cheers.
79 Jerry McBride (jmcbride@×××××××.us)
80 --
83 From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride
84 --
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Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not? Ricardo Saffi Marques <saffi@××××××××××××××.br>
Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not? Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not? Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org>