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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:08:35
Message-Id: 20121218230711.639b95b1@digimed.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? by Michael Mol
1 On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:55:16 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:
2
3 > > #2 already has a solution, it's called an init*. Other solutions exist
4 > > but none are as elegant as a throwaway temporary filesystem in RAM.
5 >
6 > I find virtually nothing elegant about a temporary filesystem in RAM.
7 > It duplicates code that already exists on the system, and it
8 > represents and additional maintenance step in system upgrades. It
9 > seems almost a given that if someone is keeping multiple kernel images
10 > on a system, they're not updating the initr* for each when binaries
11 > that would be found in each are upgraded or rebuilt.
12
13 I don't use separate initr* files, the initramfs is built into the
14 kernel, using the latest versions of the tools installed at the time the
15 kernel was compiled. That gives a single bootable file that, if it works
16 now, should always work. Most changes to the component packages do not
17 affect the simple job they have to do to get a system ready to run init.
18
19 > In Debian, Ubuntu and others, this is handled by a post-install hook
20 > where the initr* image is rebuilt. To me, this honestly feels like a
21 > hack. In something like Gentoo, I'd rather see package placement
22 > driven by whether or not it will be needed to get all mount points
23 > mounted. If that means i18n databases under something like /boot/data,
24 > that seems reasonable. To me, the only cases where initr* feels like
25 > the right solution are things like netboot or booting from read-only
26
27 Or / on LVM, or / on an encrypted filesystem. or any other requirement
28 for a filesystem that cannot be used without adding code to the kernel.
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32 Neil Bothwick
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34 WinErr 002: No Error - Yet

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