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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:34:08
Message-Id: 201010262133.45123.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB by Paul Hartman
1 Apparently, though unproven, at 17:24 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Paul Hartman
2 did opine thusly:
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4 > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Iain Buchanan <iaindb@××××××××××××.au>
5 wrote:
6 > > I'm having issues with the latest mix of nvidia-drivers, xorg, and
7 > > whatever else it might be!
8 > >
9 > > I'm getting bad performance when switching virtual dekstops and moving
10 > > windows and such. GL screensavers seem to be ok though.
11 >
12 > Same here. My fast desktop with Core i7 920, Nvidia GX 240, has a
13 > slower KDE UI than my 6-year-old laptop that has AMD Athlon 3200+ and
14 > ATI Radeon Mobility 9700. Simply opening a konsole window on my
15 > desktop with compositing enabled can take 2-3 seconds, when it is
16 > instant on the laptop.
17
18 Let me weep on your shoulder with you. This laptop has a pair of these:
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20 vendor_id : GenuineIntel
21 cpu family : 6
22 model : 23
23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz
24
25 4G RAM, 1920x1200 screen and this video card:
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27 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600M GT]
28 (rev a1)
29
30 and nvidia-drivers-260.19.12
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32 KDE performance is pathetic especially with compositing enabled. It was really
33 bad sometime around 4.3 with that screw up in the driver for resizing windows.
34 Some releases are better, some worse. I'm getting disheartened trying to
35 figure out what to downgrade: mesa, xorg, drivers, kde....
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37 A colleague has the identical machine running Ubuntu. Gnome flies on that. I
38 don't want to go to Ubuntu - I detest it on a laptop and detest Gnome even
39 more. I might go back to e17 and just put up with the reduced desktop
40 functionality.
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45 >
46 > People have been complaining about it for years, KDE and
47 > nvidia-drivers don't always get along with each other. The usual
48 > answer is that it works with Intel and ATI cards, and Nvidia's drivers
49 > are closed-source, so nobody can guess what the problem is and all we
50 > can do is hope Nvidia in their ivory tower can one day bless us with
51 > an update that makes things better. And then of course there are
52 > people who have Nvidia cards and everything works great and they don't
53 > know what the complainers are talking about. :)
54 >
55 > In my personal experience, on my Nvidia machine KDE 4.2 was the
56 > fastest, and it has gotten slower with each subsequent KDE release
57 > (with 4.5 being the worst one yet - so bad that I've disabled
58 > compositing entirely). Or maybe it has gotten slower with each
59 > nvidia-drivers release over the same period of time, I can't say.
60 > Maybe it is all a coincidence.
61 >
62 > However, on my old laptop with xorg radeon drivers, it has been
63 > getting faster with each KDE release, with KDE 4.5 is the fastest one
64 > yet. Both machines run latest everything on ~amd64. The only
65 > significant configuration difference between the two is nvidia-drivers
66 > vs radeon.
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69 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com