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On Tuesday 03 Jan 2012 15:22:29 Walter Dnes wrote: |
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> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 05:22:09PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote |
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> > (Come to think of it, has *any* distro ever attempted this... |
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> > 'unconventional of going udev-free?) |
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> Alpine linux has done it http://alpinelinux.org/ Unfortunately, |
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> they're so minimalistic and server-oriented that they use uclibc instead |
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> of glibc. So Alpine is not viable as a desktop distro. Think of it as |
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> Gentoo with mdev instead of udev == Alpine with glibc instead of uclibc |
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> By the way, there's a thread on the Gentoo developer list discussing |
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> the situation, and the proposed move of a bunch of stuff to /usr. See |
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> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?do=post_view_flat;post=245148; |
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> page=1;mh=-1;list=gentoo;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC |
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> I piped up with my proposal. We'll see what happens. |
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I'd like to thank Walter for doing something about this and Pandu for testing |
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it, rather than just wingeing (like I did). :p |
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I don't hold any hope that mdev will replace udev, but that this effort may go |
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someway to influence the development philosophy that has been entertained to |
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date with udev. A philosophy that removes choice and flexibility. This is |
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felt more by Gentoo users, because Gentoo as we know is not a binary distro |
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and the needs of its users are more nuanced and eclectic. |
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As I recall from this mammoth thread mdev is one option, a staged mounting of |
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devices/running of scripts by udev is another. Anything that will make udev |
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devs to stop for a minute and think again the impact of their choices on the |
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overall Linux community will be of benefit. If Walter's good effort bring this |
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about I would be more than happy to support him, although with a laptop using |
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mdev may not be my immediate preferred solution. |
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Regards, |
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Mick |