Re: [gentoo-user] Calm

[J. Roeleveld]

On Saturday, April 16, 2016 11:25:23 AM Dale wrote:
> Top posting since John started it.  lol

Refusing to top-post, even when others do...
Makes for even more fun to trace the conversations...

> Can you two explain this to Alan Grimes?  He seems to think emerge has
> some very serious problems.  ;-)

Trying to explain it to him will be as useful as discussing science with 
members of the Westboro Baptist Church or similar....

> I might add, I recently went through the KDE plasma update which
> involved a ton of rebuilds/upgrades.  Since I run a mix of stable and
> unstable, it took some effort to get it all sorted BUT emerge did a
> pretty good job of telling me what was needed.  Once I got the proper
> things in the keyword and USE file, it was off to compile land for
> several hours.  I might add, I had to use some of Alan McKinnion's logic
> to understand emerge's output.

Aside from that, the upgrade guide was a very useful step-by-step guide to 
avoid any blockers during the upgrade.

> I might add, I also recently did a emerge -e world.  Out of all the over
> 1,400 packages installed on this machine, only one failed.  I can't
> recall the package name but I seem to recall keywording to a newer
> version and that worked.  Still, 1 out of over 1400 packages.  That's
> pretty dang good.  About 99.9% success.  Almost like 24 caret gold.

1 out of 1400 is, in my opinion, 1 too many.
But compared to the likely 400 you'd have had about 5 or 6 years ago, I am 
extremely pleased.

> It seems you two are not alone on being some happy Gentooers.  :-D

Count me there as well.
I have long passed the point where I will accept bad and unreliable systems 
when I can help it.

> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> John Blinka wrote:
> > I've been meaning to write such a post for some time now.  Thanks for
> > prompting me to add my 2 cents.
> >
> > I've been using Gentoo for perhaps 15 years.  There have been a few
> > rough patches along the way resolved by new reinstalls, but overall
> > this has been by far the best computing environment I've ever used.
> > (And one of the best online communities I've ever lurked in.)  I
> > remember feeling quite apprehensive at my first install after giving
> > the Handbook my first look, but that install went well, and I've never
> > looked back.  I've been able to transition from using Gentoo as a
> > professional development system for large scale parallel numerical
> > stuff, to using it for some personal work in medical informatics, and
> > lately digital photography.  In general, I've found that Gentoo just
> > works, given a little effort to understand how to make it work via its
> > truly wonderful array of well written documentation.  I really like
> > the ease with which I've been able to venture into new categories of
> > software and computing. Every time I've needed something new, it's
> > been in portage and has been fairly easy to install, configure, and use.
> >
> > I recently had to do reinstalls on all my systems due to disk
> > failures.  Took a few days, but I've been living in a sweet spot ever
> > since, with everything working perfectly on all systems.
> >
> > Thanks to all who've made this possible!
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de
> >
> > <mailto:acm@×××.de>> wrote:
> >     Hello, Gentoo.
> >
> >     I'm just saying hello to confirm I'm still here.
> >
> >     For many months now, Gentoo has simply worked for me, without
> >     problems.
> >     I sync my system several times a week, and emerge just works.
> >
> >     The last bit of excitement I had was in early 2015 when I was
> >     trying to
> >     sort out the mess in my xfce4 system after gnome-3 had been made
> >     stable.
> >     In the end, I gave up and reinstalled Gentoo, which this time took me
> >     only a week.
> >
> >     Admittedly, there's very little which is cutting edge on my system
> >     - the
> >     box is 6½ years old, it boots with lilo on an old fashioned BIOS, my
> >     filesystems are ext3 (or in one case, ext2) on spinning rust.  The
> >     only
> >     remotely adventurous things I've got are RAID-1 (via the kernel) and
> >     lvm2.
> >
> >     So a big thanks to all the developers who've brought about this happy
> >     state of affairs!
> >
> >     --
> >     Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).