Re: [gentoo-user] Calm

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Saturday, April 16, 2016 11:25:23 AM Dale wrote:
>> Top posting since John started it.  lol
> Refusing to top-post, even when others do...
> Makes for even more fun to trace the conversations...
>
>> Can you two explain this to Alan Grimes?  He seems to think emerge has
>> some very serious problems.  ;-)
> Trying to explain it to him will be as useful as discussing science with
> members of the Westboro Baptist Church or similar....
>

I was thinking fence post but we have the same idea.  ;-) 


>> I might add, I recently went through the KDE plasma update which
>> involved a ton of rebuilds/upgrades.  Since I run a mix of stable and
>> unstable, it took some effort to get it all sorted BUT emerge did a
>> pretty good job of telling me what was needed.  Once I got the proper
>> things in the keyword and USE file, it was off to compile land for
>> several hours.  I might add, I had to use some of Alan McKinnion's logic
>> to understand emerge's output.
> Aside from that, the upgrade guide was a very useful step-by-step guide to
> avoid any blockers during the upgrade.
>


Actually, I think the only info I got from it was that I had to switch
to sddm and emerge the plasma package.  Since I have a mix of stable and
unstable here, it went down a whole new path after that.  I had hard
blockers, other packages that had to be keyworded and to change some USE
flags as well.  If I was running stable only, then the guide would
likely have worked step by step.  It did give the basic info that I
needed even tho I was running a install that was different. 

The big point tho, emerge did a pretty darn good job of dropping bread
crumbs on what needed changing.  On a couple occasions, it took me a few
reads to grasp what it was saying but it was there and I was able to
figure it out.  So, unlike Alan G and his problems, emerge did a good job. 


>> I might add, I also recently did a emerge -e world.  Out of all the over
>> 1,400 packages installed on this machine, only one failed.  I can't
>> recall the package name but I seem to recall keywording to a newer
>> version and that worked.  Still, 1 out of over 1400 packages.  That's
>> pretty dang good.  About 99.9% success.  Almost like 24 caret gold.
> 1 out of 1400 is, in my opinion, 1 too many.
> But compared to the likely 400 you'd have had about 5 or 6 years ago, I am
> extremely pleased.


That is what I was talking about.  Many years ago, even thinking you
could do a emerge -e world of that many packages without at least a
dozen failures of some kind would be nuts.  I'm talking rooms with
rubber walls nuts too.  Actually, if I had not forgot to keyword that
new version, it would have worked.  That version had already failed and
I should have done the keyword change first.  So really, it was my fault. 


>> It seems you two are not alone on being some happy Gentooers.  :-D
> Count me there as well.
> I have long passed the point where I will accept bad and unreliable systems
> when I can help it.
>
>

The longest uptime I have ever had was running Gentoo.  If it wasn't for
power failures, I may not ever reboot this thing.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-)