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On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:08 AM, lee <lee@××××××××.de> wrote: |
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> Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> writes: |
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>> Who is forcing anybody to use anything? |
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> Look around and you will find that systemd has taken over Linux, with a |
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> few exceptions as in distributions like Gentoo. The taking over will |
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> probably continue until you cannot use Linux anymore without using |
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> systemd. If that's not forcing, then what is it? |
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They're not forcing you to use Linux at all, let alone Linux with systemd. |
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Fedora v13 never contained systemd as far as I'm aware. Today it |
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still works EXACTLY as it did then. Nobody is preventing you from |
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using that. The same is true for any other distro that has adopted |
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systemd. |
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Your complaint isn't that people are forcing you to use systemd. Your |
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complaint is that somebody isn't building a linux distro to your |
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personal specifications free of charge. With FOSS we all contribute |
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code that anybody can use for as long as they wish. The fact that you |
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don't want to use the code that somebody wrote a few years ago and |
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would rather they write updated software (perhaps with security |
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vulnerabilities removed, features added, and so on) doesn't obligate |
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others to create it for you. |
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And that is my issue with this line of argument. It assumes that you |
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have a right to demand that others create free software for you, and |
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that they do it to your specifications. |
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I get your frustration. There have been FOSS projects that were |
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discontinued that I've thought were really valuable. However, while I |
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mourn their indefinite slumber, I'm not going to complain that the |
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devs chose to move on. I never paid them for what they gave me in the |
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first place, and I have no right to demand more. The same is true of |
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whoever maintains your init scripts. If you have a support contract |
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that requires somebody to backport fixes to whatever you're using for |
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10 years, and they're breaking that contract, then I can only agree |
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that you're in the right. Short of that, you've gotten what you've |
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paid for. I understand your frustration, but I don't think the use of |
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terms like "force" is justified. |
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Rich |
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