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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:15:49
Message-Id: c48337f3-fdb7-78c2-2fed-6177d5e51271@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin. by Dale
1 On 29/05/2016 19:54, Dale wrote:
2 > Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 >> On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote:
4 >>> Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
5 >>>> Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury:
6 >>>>> WOW!
7 >>>>>
8 >>>>> Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary
9 >>>>> distribution
10 >>>>> that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to take the time to
11 >>>>> review what
12 >>>>> emerge is proposing and see if changes are needed first.
13 >>>>>
14 >>>> It IS actually possible to do that, at least for non-critical systems.
15 >>>> Just make sure to mail yourself with the emerge output, so you can fix
16 >>>> things before the next automatic run.
17 >>>>
18 >>>> The point being that you don't have to sit and watch while emerge works.
19 >>>> You can have the output of any blocks or failures waiting for you in
20 >>>> your inbox at your convenience.
21 >>>>
22 >>>> For this to work in a timely fashion you need to stay on stable packages
23 >>>> as much as possible, and also keep other customizations to a minimum,
24 >>>> e.g. don't use --autounmask-write.
25 >>>>
26 >>> Thing is, that's not what Alan seems to want. Alan wants something like
27 >>> Ubuntu or something where you tell it to upgrade and then walk away
28 >>> without checking anything.
29 >>
30 >> You are both wrong. What Alan Grimes really wants is an excuse (any
31 >> excuse) to whine, whinge and bitch about $STUFF.
32 >>
33 >> Notice how he never replies to any thread he starts?
34 >>
35 >>
36 >
37 >
38 > Well, he did reply. Either his script is still doing it or he did and
39 > he hasn't learned anything yet.
40 >
41 > It's funny how he is the only one that has these problems and how he
42 > keeps using that disaster of a script. I don't think anyone has posted
43 > a positive thing about that script. I'm no script guru by any means but
44 > even I can read that thing and see what a disaster it is.
45 >
46 > Best of luck to him. I'm about done trying to help. Key word, trying.
47 >
48 > Dale
49 >
50 > :-) :-)
51 >
52
53
54 I agree Dale.
55
56 Mr Grimes should probably move over to Linux From Scratch. It has none
57 of portage's absurdities, makes no effort at all to be helpful to the
58 user and allows anyone to write any build automation they feel is
59 appropriate. LFS also requires you to watch all the compiler output all
60 the time to catch problems; it all seems to match Mr Grimes'
61 requirements right down to a tee.
62
63
64 I'm going to STFU down, go to bed and finish an astonishingly intriguing
65 Stephen King book and let the computer get on with doing whatever it
66 thinks perl-cleaner fixes.
67
68 --
69 Alan McKinnon
70 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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