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El Mie, 4 de Febrero de 2009, 18:48, Nikos Chantziaras escribió: |
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> Jesús Guerrero wrote: |
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>> El Mie, 4 de Febrero de 2009, 14:19, Nikos Chantziaras escribió: |
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>>> Sebastián Magrà wrote: |
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>>>> Also, Gentoo is a great school. If you want to learn how a Linux |
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>>>> system works, and really want to learn about Unix systems, then |
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>>>> Gentoo is the |
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>>>> best for you. |
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>>> I don't get that argument. I didn't learn how Linux or Unix works |
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>>> with Gentoo. I didn't even find my prior knowledge of Unix and Linux |
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>>> of much use either. Typing "emerge package" and "dispatch-conf" |
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>>> doesn't offer me much knowledge. It's as simple as Debian in this |
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>>> regard. |
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>>> If I wanted a "learn Unix" distro, I would be using Slackware :P |
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>> Gentoo forces you to use linux in the sense that you need to |
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>> do all the work by yourself to install it. What you describe is just the |
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>> regular update/install process, which is simple enough as you said. |
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> It was very easy for me. The first I came in tough with Gentoo was with |
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> the 2007 DVD. I booted, double clicked the installer icon, clicked "next" |
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> a few times with checking some tickboxes too, and then emerged -e system |
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> and world and the packages I need. |
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> After that I was asking myself where the difficulty lies many people |
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> refer to when it comes to installing Gentoo. |
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> Seriously, I didn't learn anything. Maybe CLFAGS and USE flags. |
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You used the installer. Which should never be used because |
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it's buggy and crappy, it has caused lots of problems, and |
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for me it spoils the whole gentoo thing because lots of |
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newcomers that use it have nothing but problems. In addition, |
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they don't learn the basic linux stuff we were talking about, |
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and hence, they have problems administering their machines, |
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dealing with packages, mixing software branches, creating |
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overlays, configuring their systems and many more. Problems |
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whose solution they wouldn't need to ask (spamming the lists |
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and forums in the way) if they had used the handbook in first |
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place. |
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In my opinion that buggy livecd was in all sense a bad thing |
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and should have never existed. |
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Gentoo is installed by hand usually, following the handbook, |
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and not clicking next. Once you read the whole handbook you |
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can have an opinion if a new user would learn a thing or two |
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by using it or not. |
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A wouldn't have expected that a brave slacker would choose the |
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graphical installer ;) |
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Jesús Guerrero |
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