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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's |
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>> decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an |
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>> initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the |
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>> best *technical* decision? (*gasp*) |
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> That is *not* the concern here, Canek, and that should be obvious from the |
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> comments here. |
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It's not obvious at all. |
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> Repeat: the primary concern is *not* about separate /usr without initramfs. |
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See the last batch of emails; but even before a lot of people stated |
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that their concern was the separate /usr withouth an initramfs |
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dropping support. |
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> The primary concern is that systemd will eventually be shoved down our |
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> throats whether we want it or not, and using eudev or mdev or *anything* |
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> other than systemd (ie OpenRC/eudev) will. |
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That makes no sense: the OpenRC maintainer is the one pushing the change. |
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> And the track record speaks for itself, regardless of *any* promises that it |
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> won't, it is obvious to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear that this |
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> is a blatant LIE. |
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Seriosly? If you don't trust the OpenRC maintainer then you are |
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running out of options. |
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> Everything that is happening is simply setting the stage for precisely that. |
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Nah. That's FUD, simply. Again, dropping support for separate /usr |
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without initramfs is being pushed by the OpenRC maintainer, because it |
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needs that to effectively competing with systemd. |
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Really, read the Gentoo Project ML. |
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>> When you have almost all distributions converging on that, and even |
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>> *the OpenRC maintainer* (which is the one pushing this, BTW, not the |
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>> systemd guys) supporting that decision, don't you think that perhaps, |
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>> just*perhaps*, everybody screaming about the sky falling (which, BTW, |
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>> they are certainly noisy, but I really don't think are that many) are |
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>> overreacting and even (*gasp* again) wrong? |
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> Again, the main issue is not about separate /usr, so please stop trying to |
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> deflect the subject... |
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Stop spreding FUD. |
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> In my opinion, the single largest reason to *not* switch to systemd in |
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> gentoo is the source of the push - in other words, it is coming from Fedora |
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> - and GNOME lovers are the maintainers. |
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Who's advocating for switching Gentoo to systemd? Citation please. |
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Really guys, get your facts straight. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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