| 1 |
On 03/27/2013 01:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
| 2 |
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Jake Margason <jmargason758@×××××.com> wrote: |
| 3 |
>> I ran away from Arch last year to get away from all this systemd stuff. I |
| 4 |
>> hope that you guys will continue to support openrc for as long as possible. |
| 5 |
> |
| 6 |
> Don't do top posting, please. |
| 7 |
> |
| 8 |
>> One question though. why does everyone seem to be migrating towards systemd? |
| 9 |
>> How is it superior? is openrc just a dead project is that why? |
| 10 |
> |
| 11 |
> That's three questions ;) |
| 12 |
> |
| 13 |
> 1. "why does everyone seem to be migrating towards systemd?" |
| 14 |
> |
| 15 |
> Not everyone is migrating towards systemd (yet), but the trend is |
| 16 |
> certainly that more and more distros switch to it or at least offer it |
| 17 |
> as a first class alternative to whatever other init system they use. |
| 18 |
> As for why, I think it's for two reasons: a) it works, b) upstream |
| 19 |
> udev merged with systemd, and most distros just follow upstream. |
| 20 |
> |
| 21 |
> 2. "How is it superior?" |
| 22 |
> |
| 23 |
> Well, that's the pickle. If you are like me, then systemd it's |
| 24 |
> superior to OpenRC basically in every single way. If you are one of |
| 25 |
> the people that thinks that something called "the UNIX way" actually |
| 26 |
> exists, or that "Linux/Gentoo is about choice", or that we should care |
| 27 |
> about our *BSD cousins keeping up with us, then systemd is far |
| 28 |
> inferior. |
| 29 |
> |
| 30 |
> From a technical point of view (the quality of the code and the time |
| 31 |
> it takes to fix bugs), I believe everyone (even Lennart's most fervent |
| 32 |
> detractors) will agree that systemd is a superb piece of software. The |
| 33 |
> problem is the philosophy behind it; if you agree with said |
| 34 |
> philosophy, systemd is great. Otherwise, is a new fangled beast which |
| 35 |
> goes against everything that UNIX stands for (whatever that means), "a |
| 36 |
> solution for a problem no one has", and "fixing something that wasn't |
| 37 |
> broken". |
| 38 |
> |
| 39 |
> 3. "is openrc just a dead project is that why?" |
| 40 |
> |
| 41 |
> Is not dead; it has new releases and stuff. Just not many features are |
| 42 |
> implemented to it, and it has some pretty awkward bugs, some of them |
| 43 |
> years old, like not being able to start services in parallel. |
| 44 |
> |
| 45 |
> It's obviously better that SysV. From my point of view, that's not enough. |
| 46 |
> |
| 47 |
> Hope it helps. |
| 48 |
> |
| 49 |
> Regards. |
| 50 |
> |
| 51 |
|
| 52 |
A nice, reasonably even-handed writeup. :) |
Archives