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On 06/08/2013 15:26, Bruce Hill wrote: |
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> On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 02:40:04PM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: |
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>> Apparently, "utf8" is the canonical representation in glibc (which |
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>> provides the locale tool): |
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>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2004/12/msg00028.html |
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>> That eselect enumerates the locale twice when the alternate form is |
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>> specified in /etc/env.d/02locale could be considered as a minor bug. |
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>> --Kerin |
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> RFC 3629 does not mention utf8, but I did see this notation in Wikipedia, and |
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> yes, I understand that's not official: |
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> Other descriptions that omit the hyphen or replace it with a space, such as |
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> "utf8" or "UTF 8", are not accepted as correct by the governing standards.[14] |
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> Despite this, most agents such as browsers can understand them, and so |
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> standards intended to describe existing practice (such as HTML5) may |
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> effectively require their recognition. |
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> [14] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3629.txt |
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Internally, glibc may use whatever representation it pleases. |
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> I was only mildly curious seeing utf8 show up, because on numberous occasions |
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> in #gentoo on FreeNode there have been different reports of incorrect |
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> characters displayed with utf8, then fixed with UTF-8. Having read RFC 3629, I |
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> just made it a habit to always use the standard (UTF-8). |
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Probably due to buggy applications. According to a glibc maintainer, |
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they should be using the nl_langinfo() function but some try to read the |
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locale name itself. The response of both of these commands is the same: |
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# LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 locale -k LC_CTYPE | grep charmap |
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# LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 locale -k LC_CTYPE | grep charmap |
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Ergo, applications that use the correct interface will be informed that |
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the character encoding is "UTF-8", irrespective of the format of the |
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locale name. |
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Given the above, sticking to the "<lang>_<territory>.UTF-8" format seems |
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wise. |
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> Having read the remainder of the Debian ML thread you referenced, I have a |
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> headache. Debian did that to me when I used it for ~3 months in 2003. :-) |
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> Cheers, |
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> Bruce |
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