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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: change and improvement
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:22:05
Message-Id: j6nj4c$d00$2@dough.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement by Michael Orlitzky
1 On 2011-10-07, Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com> wrote:
2 > On 10/07/2011 03:36 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
3 >> Am 07.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Michael Orlitzky:
4 >>> On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
5 >>>>> If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs,
6 >>>> why would you do that?
7 >>> Eventually, grub2 will be all that's available from portage. At that
8 >>> point, I can either,
9 >>>
10 >>> 1) Install grub2 on some machines.
11 >>>
12 >>> 2) Maintain grub-legacy (and install media) myself.
13 >>
14 >> i really don't think thats the way its going to be. i think there will
15 >> be grub and grub2 in portage potentially forever. like with python 2 and 3.
16 >>
17 >> even if not, 2) takes you one cp command and a little bit of disk space
18 >> for the grub tarball.
19 >
20 > Python2 will stick around because most packages (portage!) don't work
21 > with python3. Grub doesn't have the same problem.
22 >
23 > (2) requires me to at least,
24 >
25 > * Figure out how to build a Gentoo install CD
26 > * Fork grub-legacy on our servers somewhere
27 > * Test it against all future kernel releases
28 > * Document why we're doing this, and how to do the first three steps.
29 >
30 >
31 >>> * Upgrade a bunch of my servers at 4am?
32 >> why not choose a convenient time to upgrade?
33 >
34 > 4am *is* the convenient time to upgrade.
35
36 And usually on a weekend, so when the whole thing goes sideways you've
37 got at least one day to fix it before "regular business hours" start.
38 Unless it's a "consumer" server not a "business" server, then you
39 don't have a "weekend" for fixing stuff that goes wrong.
40
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